Who is the most complete professional boxer in the world today?

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  1. CJLightweight

    CJLightweight Lightweight Kingpin Full Member

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    cotto and mayweather(although not the 147 version)...nuff said

    calzaghe doesn't have great defense
     
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  2. hellblazer

    hellblazer All-Time Great™ Full Member

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    Daniel Ponce De Leon
     
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  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    This is a terrible post.
     
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  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I agree that Marquez is the right pick for the best technical boxer, but Calderon deserves a mention too, as does Kessler.

    But I don't really think Cotto is that far behind these boys.
     
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  5. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Mayweather, I think
     
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  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    How concerned are you by his technical shortcomings and his lack of power/combination punching (at his current weight)? As regards labelling him "the most complete fighter in the world", I mean.
     
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  7. CJLightweight

    CJLightweight Lightweight Kingpin Full Member

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    if guzman had carried his power at the higher weight he also gets a vote
     
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  8. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    His technique is very good, his chin is very good, but yeah...he does lack power, but then, so does JMM, who also lacks a very good chin!

    I was tempted by Cotto too...but Cotto's technique and tactical game can still improve. Soon, he'll be the best, I think.
     
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  9. markclow

    markclow Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I hate Mayweather but he is the most complete fighter when you consider defense as well as offense.
     
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  10. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Mayweather.

    If anyone says Pavlik or Cotto, I am going to scream......
     
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  11. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Well, it's clearly not Pavlik, but a very good case can be made for Cotto, I think; soon, he'll be the best!
     
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  12. McGrain

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    I don't think that BEST and MOST COMPLETE are the same thing, at all.

    My problems with Mayweather techncially are miriad, but the main ones - he holds his hands very low, he doesn't punch to cover his "walk away", he sometimes retreats in straight lines when being pursued by an aggressive opponent, he often relies upon head movement alone to avoid dangerous punches, he leads with the left hook etc etc etc. He gets away with all of these things because he is such an extraordinary talent.
     
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  13. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Loads of people have said Cotto.

    Why do you think it's so unreasonable?
     
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  14. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Yes, but Mayweather knows and is able to fight "right" too...he just does what he does to show off and because he can! Technically, he is very good, if he wants to...
     
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  15. Benjiabc

    Benjiabc The Nottingham Hitman Full Member

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    mayweather clearly out in front, followed by calzaghe and cotto
     
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