Who is the most over rated on this list of undefeated fighters?

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  1. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    :lol: :lol: :lol:

    Cmon Chris John, fight JMM OUTSIDE FRIGGIN' INDONESIA :fire

    Oh, and I agree JCC jr. is not overrated, he's not even rated that high anwyay...
     
    CarlesX7, Sep 29, 2008
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  2. mad_takamura

    mad_takamura It's getting hot in here! Full Member

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    Well i'm asking in the universal manner, i think they are still overrated at other boxing web sites..
    yet over all in your own experience??
     
    mad_takamura, Sep 29, 2008
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  3. mad_takamura

    mad_takamura It's getting hot in here! Full Member

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    You are very correct but who irks you the most??
    Coz there are 2 possibilities here
    #1. they are too grossingly hyped
    #2. they ain't worthy of fame.
     
    mad_takamura, Sep 29, 2008
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  4. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    I'll be generic about this - to me there is no question whatsoever that Joe Calzaghe is/was overrated, but only because he's seen as one of the absolute best fighters in all the sport, and one of the better of all time in his weight class, and region of the world. Calzaghe is a very good fighter, but his game has all sorts of holes in it. He's shockingly flawed if you know what to look for. I was watching tape of the Kessler fight to prepare for his encounter with Hopkins, and I started noticing all these openings that Kessler had failed to close on in the mid and late rounds. There were dozens and dozens of holes and openings. Tons. The type that a Juan Manuel Marquez would ****ing rain dance all over. I was stunned, because it wasn't something I noticed when I saw the fight live.. Anyway, Hopkins made Cazlaghe look like a ****ing fool when the time came, and it was no surpise to me whatsoever. Joe is a goddamn great competitor though, I do enjoy him as a personality and gamesman. He's just not at all the technician and boxing scientist that I once believed him to be. Not whatsoever.
     
    san rafael, Sep 29, 2008
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  5. hitman6616

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    Chavez even being on this list proves that many people over-rate him....is it really that hard to see the kids just another 2nd generation flop?
     
    hitman6616, Sep 29, 2008
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  6. mad_takamura

    mad_takamura It's getting hot in here! Full Member

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    You're right funny he leads this poll.:blood
     
    mad_takamura, Sep 29, 2008
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  7. mad_takamura

    mad_takamura It's getting hot in here! Full Member

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    Getting closer to the truth....i think it's between slappy and guz it's too close to call..
     
    mad_takamura, Sep 29, 2008
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  8. mad_takamura

    mad_takamura It's getting hot in here! Full Member

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    Hmmm..i wanna vote but i can't make up my mind weather it's guz or slappy..
     
    mad_takamura, Sep 29, 2008
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  9. PH|LLA

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    Calzaghe will always have trouble against a top level right handed counterpuncher. Its his flaw. Kessler isn't even that good a counterpuncher, but still had success countering Calzaghe. But apart from counterpunchers, Calzaghe eats fighters alive.

    Calzaghe is a great fighter, not as great as Hopkins or Jones, but greater than Winky Wright.
     
    PH|LLA, Sep 29, 2008
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  10. Sandmanl337

    Sandmanl337 Pactard Full Member

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    Edwin Valero maybe..

    JCC Jr. and Chris John aren't overrated.. We already know they ain't doin' squat..
     
    Sandmanl337, Sep 29, 2008
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  11. PH|LLA

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    guzman isn't in the poll
     
    PH|LLA, Sep 29, 2008
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  12. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Calzaghe will always have trouble against any complete fighter. Period.
     
    san rafael, Sep 29, 2008
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  13. PH|LLA

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    Chris John >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JCC Jr.

    John is a solid top15 p4p fighter.
     
    PH|LLA, Sep 29, 2008
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  14. mad_takamura

    mad_takamura It's getting hot in here! Full Member

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    **** i thought i placed his name there..
    Anyway i don't see amsterdam around to defend his boy. I would'nt care less. After what he did to nate, for me that's already an "l" in his record even if it's not a title fight.:-(
     
    mad_takamura, Sep 29, 2008
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  15. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    So a complete fighter with power, speed, counterpunching ability, a good jab, good defense and offense will always give Calzaghe trouble. Thats not that bad man. That kind of fighter would give almost any fighter in history trouble
     
    PH|LLA, Sep 29, 2008
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