Who is the most overrated fighter of all time?

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  1. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    His three biggest wins have none of these involved. Foreman, Liston I & Frazier III are all non-controversial.

    There's one case of match fixing, and no-one thinks Ali was going to lose that one. Just that no one thinks he would win in one round. Shavers, Norton III & Young are his controversial decision wins, and I wouldn't call those his major league wins. In fact, I don't think any would make his top five.

    And 'dirty play', isn't Ali's fault, it's teh referees.
     
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  2. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Absolute nonsense
     
  3. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Come on fellas. Nothin wrong with having two Jack Dempsey threads going at the same time.
     
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  4. KasimirKid

    KasimirKid Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hand speed is necessary for power punches, but if a fighter has slowed down his opponent enough so he has extra time to set his feet into the canvas and twist his torso properly he can add to a punch's power.
     
  5. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Don’t agree with this at all. Even if one or two were dubious (not by his doing) or bad decisions it doesn’t make up for the Other 30 amazing victories
     
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  6. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Ali is certainly overrated by the general sports fan. A Boxing fan can have him #1 in heavyweight history
    without any real dispute. When it goes past there and he is #1 on the P4P lists. That would be overrating him IMO
     
  7. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Preach
     
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  8. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Even then only a slight exaggeration though. In the toughest division
     
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  9. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    His personality gets in the way. For alot of fans the emotional part is impossible to remove. They see things that aren't there. Granted most of those situations were the last part of his career. I cant think of anyone who has that many close wins and in some cases he was the beneficiary of a Arned Robbery.
     
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  10. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  11. VVMM

    VVMM Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Dirty play? What about Wepner against Ali ? I think Ali wasn't an extreme dirty fighter.
     
  12. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    It`s not the toughest division, a lot of heavyweights lack the skill of some of the lighter weights, Ali would have struggled in the late 70`s at a lower weight because he wasn`t training that much, lighter weight champs tend to be in better conditon than many heavyweights cause they have to be, you would never got someone as plodding as an older Foreman being champ at a lighter weight, b-hop was far harder to hit than Foreman when he won a title for the final time.
     
  13. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    George Foreman
    ...and you can make a case for anyone else.
     
  14. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It’s the toughest division because one shot can mean lights out. Even from a Fighter with little skill if they pack a punch they can go places and a majority at the top (even the worst) can hurt you. But I get ur point otherwise
     
  15. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    He took time off to do cocaine and drink alcohol.