Who Is The Smartest Fighter Floyd Ever Fought?

There are various instances in the fight were Marquez gets near on the inside and Mayweather uses his arm and elbows to push Marquez' head down.

Oh the outside, Mayweather sticks his jabbing hand out and leaves it there to guage. That requires strenghth of which he has more than Marquez.
Size and strenghth is incorporated even in the flow of standing distance and boxing from the outside.

If you dont agree, lets have Mayweather try to outbox Wlad Klitchko from the outside. We can even give Wlad a handicapp, he can only use the jab!

Mayweather is by far superior to Wlad in skill, but in a boxing match because of the size, Mayweather would not touch Wlad based on size alone.

Wlad would outbox Mayweather with just the jab thrown at half efficiency.


Well it has nothing to do with size, Wlad just outboxed him from distance! :nut

 

Someone of JMM's size can push him off to make room as well. If size was such a factor, then Floyd wouldn't be on his 5th weight class. Floyd obviously wins with skill.

 

You make a point but look at the extreme you take it. It sounds like your trying to say size is the main point Floyd dominated and toyed JMM which is not the case and you're overlooking the main disadvantage which was Floyd's skill over JMM buddy. There was times Floyd made JMM miss 4 to 5 punches at a time. Skill was more a factor than size in that fight. Write all the **** and analogies you want. If Floyd was the same size as Marquez it still wouldn't of mattered.

 

Floyd is only about 5-7lbs naturally bigger than JMM and maybe an inch taller. Floyd claims that he walks around 142 and puts on weight at camp. How much bigger is he over JMM?

 

Pacquiao and Marquez are of the same size. Neither of them beat true elite Welters.
Mayweather is naturally bigger than both and I do see him competing in the ring against the elite welters of boxing history.


Btw, dont give me this **** about a 22 month layoff.
Like Ray Leonard vs Hagler, these guys never left the gym.
Get out of here with that crap!

 

Because it's one of my favorite PBF fights it was funny to watch. To see a fighter like Chavez go crazy throwing punches that had no effect and eat clean shots and counters whenever PBF turned it up was great. It really showed you what ineffective pressure does against a master boxer. It was a clinic.:deal

 

Marquez.

 

You and I watched different fights, then.

Yes, Floyd countered Chavez with uppercuts and eventually secured the stoppage. That's because Chavez was outgunned. But Mayweather-Gatti this wasn't.

Chavez applied enough pressure with win a couple of rounds, and did a pretty good job of backing FMJ to the ropes and keeping him there. There were moments, as stated before, when Chavez would do little things like grab the rope with one hand and then fire the hook to the body with the other. Those moments were out-numbered by far by the quality of work that Mayweather did, but make no mistake...Chavez had some moments as well. That was evidenced by the fact that FMJ sustained as much facial damage in this fight as he had any fight prior to the point when Cotto bloodied his nose. In fact, he had more moments of success than JMM did, even if he wasn't able to last to the final bell. It's a testament to how damned good Mayweather that they weren't nearly enough to prevent Floyd from turning on the accelerator in the middle rounds.

 

I think it might be FMJ's most complete performance; and it was indeed clinical. But what makes it clinic is the way he picked apart a good fighter who came in with a decent plan of attack and who didn;t do a bad job of implementing it. Chavez performed well, and I actually think you're doing Mayweather discredit to claim that he didn't.

 

Fair post.:good

 

Not necessarily in their fights with him, but in general at and around the time he fought them: Marquez, Oscar, Castillo, Cotto, Judah, Corley, C. Hernandez, Corrales.

 

Chavez was harder for Mayweather, but Marquez is greater p4p and the more overall cerebral. (although being called less cerebral than Marquez is like being called slower than Usain Bolt)

 

DLH....his fight plan worked very well but came up short as he is known to fade. That was a chess match.