Who Is The Smartest Fighter Floyd Ever Fought?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Dipset, Mar 5, 2013.


  1. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

    7,398
    903
    Nov 24, 2012
    Winning rounds against Floyd means you have good ring IQ because Floyd is always thinking 2 or 3 moves ahead. DLH isn't the kind of fighter who implements the kind of defense that Floyd has built his style around but don't get it twisted kid....DLH has great ring awareness....he knows distance, he knows how to set traps and embodies great ring generalship consistently working behind that jab. DLH at his best used subtle defensive tactics that allowed him to set up that left hook that was so devastating but he would pepper his opponents with stiff jabs and a sharp right that set up the money shot.

    In his fight with Floyd, his strategy wasn't just to swarm.:lol: That's ****ing ridiculous....it's Floyd ****ing mayweather....he eats up anyone who comes in with one dimension.

    DLH implemented intelligent pressure...his strategy was to control the pace of the fight and control where the fight took place. He didn't just come straight in throwing combinations without a plan...he would switch up between working behind the jab and applying pressure in the right spots. Eventually he couldn't keep it up and failed to change up the tactics...he just stop using the jab and became predictable in the later rounds.

    DLH never had a problem with timing or ad******g to turn things around in the middle of a fight. But with the better fighters he's faced he's faded late which has been his achilles heal.
     
  2. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,708
    82
    Oct 19, 2008
    They were only a couple of lbs difference between them on fight. Marquez was cutting weight to make 135, wherease Mayweather walks around at 148, 150. They size excuse is bull****, Mayweather just too fast, too skilled.
     
  3. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

    30,273
    5,896
    Oct 5, 2009
    JMM, Oscar, Cotto for sure

    Castillo too was a crafty fighter
     
  4. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

    31,154
    2,108
    Jul 24, 2004
    Bingo! "The better fighters he's fougth!"

    Adapting vs the 2nd tier even B level fighters can do some of that.

    Setting traps and being the ring general against the Paez' and Gatti's of the world are one thing. Doing it against the Mosely's and Hopkins of the world are another.
     
  5. GOW7

    GOW7 Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,285
    5
    Aug 16, 2010
    Skill was more of deciding factor than size. Sorry excuse maker. Timing has nothing to do with size. Dodging punches as a bigger guy has nothing to do with size. Out countering a counter puncher don't have nothing to do with size . Thank you
     
  6. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

    31,154
    2,108
    Jul 24, 2004
    Mayweather refused to step on the HBO unofficial scale on fight night, you dont know what he weighed officially.

    Against a bigger fighter than he is, it actually benefits Mayweather not to come in heavy. Against Marquez who he's going to be faster than anyways, it would benefit to come in a few lbs heavy and ensure that the strenghth and power gap factor would be even wider on his side.

    Height, reach, quickness, speed, weight.........keep going, you name it, the advantage was Mayweather's. These factors have nothing to do with actual boxing skill, but they are great contributing factors in the way fights unfold! :deal


    When Mayweather beats a great bigger fighter who holds every physical advantage over him, you get back to me and tell me about his great skill level.

    SENSEI!!!!
     
  7. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

    7,398
    903
    Nov 24, 2012
    I think with the "better" fighters that DLH has faced.....his demise came more due to a "mental" break down than any kind of disparity in skill, talent or ability levels. DLH was very talented, highly skilled and proved his ability.

    But we all know DLH for whatever reason would always fade down the stretch...especially later in his career.

    DLH did a great job against Shane in the rematch and even in the 1st fight he fought a very good fight...he just came up short....Hopkins was having his trouble with DLH early too....but slowly DLH began to fade and Nard's steady, but efficient work rate began to help break DLH down.

    DLH has lost most of his big fights...but he's won some as well and he's always been competive against the best...outside of Manny of course.
     
  8. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

    10,159
    6
    Jul 25, 2004
    Why do people keep saying this? Floyd is older then cotto.! when floyd was in his prime at 140 cotto and camp where not ready for floyd. So if cotto was not ready for Floyd at 140, then it safe to say he was not ready for any other version of floyd.

    He would have gotten a worse Ass whoppen from a younger, faster, harder hitting floyd .
     
  9. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

    31,154
    2,108
    Jul 24, 2004
    IF size has nothing to do with it, whats keeping Mayweather from commiting to a huge fight with Canelo in the fall?

    Whats been keeping him from Sergio Martinez all these years?
    Sexy vs Money, they could have hyped this matchup bigtime.
    The skillster Mayweather must not believe in his skills! :lol:
     
  10. GOW7

    GOW7 Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,285
    5
    Aug 16, 2010
    Why did Floyd fight Cotto and Oscar weighing less than than 150 when both weighed over 160? Holler and don't count out the Canelo fight just yet.
     
  11. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,738
    1,302
    Jul 21, 2010
    dude what the hell is up with this sexy sergio **** are all martinez fans closet ***s, there is no acceptable reason why a grown man should called another grown man sexy hell Martinez has even said in interviews "I don't want no dude calling me sexy". seriously WTF
     
  12. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

    31,154
    2,108
    Jul 24, 2004
    Its like Mayweather-Pac, neither called out the other at 140 lbs.
    I'm with you though, Mayweather beats Cotto at any time and any weight imo.
    Its nice though when its actually proved.
    Beating a twice beaten down version of Cotto is certainy nowhere close to having beaten the undefeated version.
     
  13. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

    31,154
    2,108
    Jul 24, 2004
    If you're referring to my post, I did'nt call Martinez "Sexy!"
    I referred to the hyping of the matchup as Sexy vs Money. Big difference!
     
  14. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

    10,159
    6
    Jul 25, 2004

    Agreed !! If you hold a title WBO, WBC, or IBF, at the time Cotto held the WBO title. imo You're not allowed to say you're not ready for a challenger for your title.
     
  15. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

    12,028
    106
    Jun 30, 2008
    Castillo seems to have been generally overlooked in the thread.