Who is was the Lineal Welterweight Champion

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  1. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It doesn't really matter how meaningful Floyd's retirement was. Once he announced it, he had to lose all rights to the lineal title. It's as simple as that.
     
  2. PNoyFightFanUSN

    PNoyFightFanUSN Larry Don't Give a **** Full Member

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    you can relinquish a belt but you don't give up lineage if you take an extended break the way he did. He was gone for less than 2 years. If Lennox Lewis unretired and tried saying he was still Heavyweight champ, i'd understand that argument but it was a Floyd retirement. It's hollow and insincere like Floyd Style Drug Testing.
     
  3. Toontoon

    Toontoon Boxing Junkie banned

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    Even if you take it away from Mayweather after he retired a large portion of fans considered Mosley as the man in this division after beating Margarito, CBZ even listed Mosley as their lineal champion in the welterweight division so Mayweather has already regained it anyway.

    It's subjective anyway.
     
  4. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Dude, he retired. Simple as that. There isn't a "2 year window to retract" clause when it comes to retirement in boxing.
     
  5. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Henry Armstrong.
     
  6. Pax

    Pax Well-Known Member Full Member

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    pbf has it.
     
  7. Hannibal

    Hannibal New Member Full Member

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    If I give it to paul williams then Pacquiao would not need to be the deemed champion
     
  8. Hannibal

    Hannibal New Member Full Member

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    Pacquiao was a heavy underdog against Oscar, granted he was old and drained. Also he Cotto was an upset as well. Who would you rather he fought?
     
  9. Hannibal

    Hannibal New Member Full Member

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    This makes sense.

    But why does the title must be vacated. What if there should always be a Linear Champ?
     
  10. Hannibal

    Hannibal New Member Full Member

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    Thats why we debate!!!
     
  11. boxbox

    boxbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    its vacated. retire and you lose your title. kinda stupid to even defend it. Btw, who's the top Welterweights right now?
     
  12. Toontoon

    Toontoon Boxing Junkie banned

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    Cotto wasn't an upset, Pacquiao was a near 1/2 favourite going into that one.
     
  13. Ripper11

    Ripper11 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol: that's not how lineal champs work.
    Judah was it and lost to Baldomir.
    Baldomir lost to Floyd
    Floyd retired
    now people can say Floyd regained it when he came back, but you can also argue he didn't

    But when Floyd was retired, he Cotto lost to Margarito
    Then Margarito lost to Shane making him the man at welterweight. (IDK if he was lineal though)
    Floyd beats Shane.

    So it's either Floyd is the lineal champ or it's vacant.
     
  14. Hannibal

    Hannibal New Member Full Member

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    Good point. But why does the Cotto Margo fight determine the lineage?
     
  15. Hannibal

    Hannibal New Member Full Member

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    Pacquiao, Mayweather, I donno.

    Morales?