Who is/was your boxing idol?

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  1. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sweet Pea you are quality poster, so no disrespect intended, I have him (Charles) as the 14th best fighter to ever fight under Queensberry rules as of October 2007. Trust me I know the quality of his resume, hence I have him rated above Hundreds of thousands of fighters in the sport.
     
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  2. Buddy La

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    Harry Greb - the one man to beat Gene Tunney :good
    Without being a Tunney fan, I would've never looked into Greb.
     
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  3. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You may have many quality years in front of you my friend, but evolution played a a cruel trick in robbing you of so many amazing years in boxing.

    But for years you have in you, you really do seem to know your stuff.
     
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  4. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I get that, but I don't get why Moore is one who rates above him for you. Oh well, I'll wait for you to make that correction in time.
     
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  5. knockout

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    Mike Tyson.
     
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  6. pcola-punisher

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    Im from pensacola so of course i have to go with the great Roy Jones Jr.
     
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  7. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I do not see that happening, I know Moore will go down in my rating (as we speak); but unless you get that Charles Biography out before the end of the year, I see no reason to rate Chalres above Moore in all-time Greatness list.

    Not that I want to irate a Cincinnati Cobra ( I have an awful lot of respect for snakes), it just an Ol' Mongoose will by evolution, have that one or two, too many tricks.
     
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  8. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    OK then, I'd simply like to hear a reason why Moore rates above him. Charles had a better resume, beat Moore 3 times, was more consistent in his prime, and was a better Heavyweight at his best, with a win over Joe Louis. How does Moore outrank him? Because he had more fights?

    He certainly didn't have too many tricks up his sleeve, otherwise he'd have won at least one of the three fights.
     
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  9. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Moore overall was the far better 175lber, a 10 year World Championship reign despite being in his 40s and indeed 50s topped Charles. Plus in the early to mid 50s Moore was a top 10 Heavyweight contender. Hell in 62 he was considered good enough to test the 60s and 70s future of the division in clay/Ali.
     
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  10. MasterFlo

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    RJJ by a country mile, I love that man.
     
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  11. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Moore never legitimately fought into his 50's. He retired at 46 according to accounts. He also never fought into his 40's at LHW.

    As far as your comment about him being a far better LHW. That's absurd, plain and simple. Not only did Charles beat Moore 3 times in decisive fashion, but his secondary wins are on par with Moore's as well. Charles was never given a shot at the LHW title, despite beating everyone there was to beat, including Moore. That's the only edge you could give Moore in any category, based solely on the fact that Charles was never given the title shot to prove his superiority. His resume at the weight rivals Moore's(along with the 3 wins over Moore himself) and his consistency at the weight outdoes Moore's.

    Charles had only 3 losses from '42 to '51(that loss being at Heavyweight), a much more consistent streak than Moore put up at his best, especially considering the names previously mentioned that Charles beat during that streak. Moore had an extensive resume, but lost to the majority of the top fighters he fought, unlike Charles. Hell, a 21 year old Charles beat Burley twice, something a 27 year old Moore couldn't do. You can't make the case for Moore>Charles at LHW. It doesn't hold water, for more than just the reason of Charles's dominance over Moore in head to head battles.
     
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  12. JMotrain

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    Morales/Hagler
     
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  13. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well Moore fought in 1961 at 175 against Rinaldi. his Mother says he was born in 1913, I guess she knows more about it than Moore (who said 1916). Thus we are both wrong , as Moore was 48 in his last defence, some 20+ years older than Charles (the last time he beat Archie).
     
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