Who Is You P4P #1 If Floyd Beats Oscar and Pac/Calzaghe Are Also Impressive?

ODLH is shot on the world class level!! He is simply a promoter, promoting himself!!$$$$$$

 

you may think he is shot but he'd beat everyone at WW except for pw,pbf and mosley

 

Btw, agree with much of what you say....Except Oscar.

 

In all honesty where do I begin on this ****.

Ok I guess winning 6 championships in 5 divisions, including 9 defenses at 130 don't mean ****. I know people are anxious to knock him off the #1 spot because they don't like him or how he fights, but to seriously believe that he should be #3 is beyond belief.

And before you bring up legends and use them to get a point across, get your facts straight first. Ali my favorite of all-time, but don't act like he never avoided a fighter. It's common knowledge that after he upset Foreman, Ali tried to stay away from him for as long as he could. And maybe after 11 years Floyd is more concerned with money than continuing trying to justify his legacy to his detractors. But, would you rather end up like Floyd whom should be financial secure well after he retires or be stuck in a tragic situation like Joe Louis, fighting to payback the IRS.

Also you said beating a blown up Hatton didn't prove anything. So knocking out Hatton, who just so happened to be the lineal champion when him and Floyd where both at 140 three years ago, doesn't mean ****. But, if Hatton didn't avoided him three years ago and fought Floyd for the undisputed Jr. WW title and lost, then it would have been a credible win for Floyd I guess. Floyd just can't win with you people. Get a life!!!!!

 

exactly the guy is nuts..especially because he has joe c ahead of pbf based on beating manfredo and kessler

 

He stays #1 until Pac/JMM and Calzaghe make their moves and their performances will decide their placements, as facing DLH again 1 year and 4 months later after a pitiful, barely winning performance is going to do nothing for you, especially if it's a repeat.

If Pac stops JMM definitively, or if JMM is just victorious, then these guys already have a claim for a spot over Floyd, especially after Floyd's abysmal performances in 2007 against an old DLH and Ricky Hatton.

If Calzaghe completely shuts out or destroys Hopkins, then follows up with an impressive win over another top LHW, then he's got a serious claim over Floyd, and of course it would depend on the winner of Pac/JMM's performance.

Hell, Floyd's physical ability is even declining, he's nowhere near as quick as he was several years back.

He doesn't have to lose to be knocked off, if he does absolutely nothing in 2008.

 

Calzaghe can't be ranked over him yet, but don't act like Floyd has any win in the last 5 years that is superior to that over a fighter of the class of Mikkel Kessler.

 

thats one win though...you cant jump a fighter just because of one win..i dont care who the fighter is..you have to take into consideration the body of work over the fighters career

 

I agree, but I think it should be the last couple of years, 3 at most.

Also, the physical condition of the fighter should be taken into consideration and not just the win itself, but the performance in the win.

The performance against DLH was pitiful for a P4P #1 against a past it fighter who looked like **** and faded as usual.

The performance against Hatton was good the second half of the fight, but it shouldn't take any skilled ATG level fighter that long to figure him out and counter him, considering that Hatton has a history of trouble with defensive counter punchers. But Floyd has been showing slowing reflexes.

Calzaghe victories in succession as I would have it would be Kessler - Hopkins - Dawson. Those 3 victories alone would stomp any recent resume into the ground, so if that happens to be Joe's 2008 with Hopkins and Dawson or another then he goes up to #1, considering Floyd's plans.

Pac/JMM winner, depending on impressive, is going to have a big claim also.

 

what have you done for me lately.

who cares what he did at 130-135 that was ages ago.

if you say that then a fighter who is retired 3 years will remain on the top spot till he loses cause of what he done super early in his career.

p4p placing as current has to do with recent victories and there substance.

floyd hasnt done jack at 140-147 and 154 yes he won titles but he even hand picks his foes.

if you wanan bring up past lets go a few years back with his string of lower level guys in a row.

what the fighter done in the past only helps for hall of fame not current p4p placings man.

 

end of thread

most logical unbias opinion here.

 

if PAC somehow demolishes JMM
(w/c is a stylistic nightmare for him from the get go) and again somehow MANAGED to beat JUAN diaz this year then the ONLY way for PBF to retain his #1 status is to beat COTTO...its that simple (or is it?)

 

what has pbf done lately? oh i dont know maybe beat the top 10 p4p fighter in hatton.....shhhhhhhhhhhh

 

end of thread yet he agreed with me......:hi:

 

Fair enough. Let's look at recent victories in the past 3 years then. Three years ago Hatton, Judah, and DLH were the lineal champs at 140, 147, and 154 respectively. Since then Floyd has challenged and beat them all. But, since Judah lost to Baldomir, Mayweather had to fight Baldomir to become the lineal champ at 147, which he did.

But I ain't even going to argue with you because you the same dumbass who thinks Cotto has wins over tough fighters like Judah and Mosley, but then wants to argue that Mayweather been fighting shot fighters like Judah and DLH.

You without a doubt maintain your position as the #1 p4p dumbass on eastsideboxing. Like seriously, how long have you been watching boxing 9 months?