Who is your pick for heaviest flyweight punchers.

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  1. KasimirKid

    KasimirKid Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I guess you have access to a different version of BoxRec than I do. As I understand it, the loss to Yaoita was a non-title 10-round overweight match. The 13-round kayo was for the title, so Perez's title reign was continuous. For back-up, you might consult a Ring Record Book. My 1972 Ring Record Book supports the version of BoxRec to which I have access. I am sure all the Ring record books would be the same.
     
  2. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Agreed. For those born after 1985, you should watch him if you haven't.
     
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  3. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    I remember that. I think it was Al Bernstein interviewing him and Carbajal said it when he was watching back the replay of knocking out Gonzalez. And Bernstein sort of corrected him 'Well, he had heart' and Carbajal said something like 'yeah, just not at that point'.
     
  4. KasimirKid

    KasimirKid Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Okay, have it your way. Perez was undoubtedly a paper champion just like any other champion who ever lost a non-title fight.

    By the way, the Box Rec link to which I have been referring in regard to Perez's record is
    https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/9037
     
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  5. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    No one gonna mention Roman Gonzalez?
     
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  6. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Pascual Perez is an alltime great flyweight and was world champion for 6 years!
    Pascual Perez was the first Argentine World Boxing Champion. In 1946, he won the Latin American Championship. In 1948, he won the Gold Medal in the Olympic Games (London). He remained an amateur for four more years before turning pro in 1952. In 1954, he won the flyweight World Championship, and successfully defended his title nine times before losing his title to Pone Kingpetch in 1960. Career record: 84 wins, 7 loses, 1 draw (57 KOs).

    Preceded by:
    Yoshio Shirai World Flyweight Champion
    1954 Nov 26 – 1960 Apr 16 Succeeded by:
    Pone Kingpetch
     
  7. KasimirKid

    KasimirKid Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thank you, Tonto, I happily yield the floor to you!
     
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  8. KasimirKid

    KasimirKid Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Al, I suggest that instead of treating the address I provided to you as a link, copy it and then paste it to your address bar at the top of the page on your computer. Then click the address bar. The BoxRec Pascual Perez boxing record page will appear. This record will not include information like weights, rounds, or title fights. Then sign up as a BoxRec member so you can log in. After you have logged in, a more complete record of Perez will appear. Scroll down to the years from 1954 through 1960, and you will see his title fights described in his record. If this doesn't work, don't ask me why. I won't be able to help you any further. Good luck!!
     
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  9. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    You are dealing with a man who cannot ever be wrong ,no matter how many ,many times his is shown to be so,he will not admit it.
    This is a guy who believes Laszlo Papp is an all time top ten middleweight and Artur Grigorian was a great champion,there is no point engaging with him as many have discovered and now ignore him
    In 2002 The Ring magazine published its 80 greatest fighters of the last 80 years Perez came in at 36th one place in front of Miguel Canto.
    https://www.liveabout.com/ring-magazine-fighter-rankings-4153939
     
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  10. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    The little guy that brought $ & recognition to the lower division.

    Little Hands of Stone!
     
  11. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    1960-09-22 110½ Pone Kingpetch 111½ 20 3 0








    Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles
    L
    TKO 8/15



    time: 2:32 | referee: Mushy Callahan 2-9 | Lee Grossman 2-6 | Tommy Hart 2-5
    World Flyweight Title
    1960-04-16 110¾ Pone Kingpetch 112 19 3 0








    Lumpinee Boxing Stadium, Bangkok
    L
    SD 15/15



    referee: Lorenzo Torreoalba 145-143 | Nat Fleischer 140-146 | Wong Hiranyalekha 137-148
    World Flyweight Title
    1959-11-05 107 Sadao Yaoita 111 31 6 2








    Ogimachi Pool, Osaka
    W
    KO 13/15



    time: 0:55 | referee: Juan Notari 118-112 | Nat Fleischer 115-113 | Kuniharu Hayashi 117-117
    World Flyweight Title
    Perez was knocked down in the 2nd round, Yaoita was knocked down twice in the 13th round.
    1959-08-10 107¼ Kenji Yonekura 111½ 4 2 0








    Metropolitan Gym
    W
    UD 15/15



    referee: Horacio Alvarez 150-137 | Koshiro Abe 146-140 | Anthony Petronella 145-139
    World Flyweight Title
    1959-02-18 111¼ Kenji Yonekura 113 4 1 0








    Nihon University Auditorium
    W
    UD 10/10



    1959-01-16 110 Sadao Yaoita 112½ 27 6 2








    Metropolitan Gym
    L
    UD 10/10



    referee: Kuniharu Hayashi 0¼-2 | Koshiro Abe 0¼-2 | Nick Pope 0¼-4
    1958-12-15 109¾ Dommy Ursua 112 19 15 1








    Rizal Memorial Sports Complex, Manila
    W
    UD 15/15



    referee: Frankie Carter 149-141 | Sylva Sirois 146-142 | Rafael Torres 145-142
    World Flyweight Title
    1958-11-22 112 Tito Raggone 116 1 4 0








    Rif-stadion, Willemstad
    W
    UD 10/10



    1958-08-09 110 Tito Raggone 114 1 3 0








    Santo Domingo
    W
    PTS 10/10



    1958-04-19 105¼ Ramon Arias 109½ 8 1 0








    Nuevo Circo, Caracas
    W
    UD 15/15



    World Flyweight Title
    Arias is first Venezuelan to fight for a World Title
    1958-03-22 106¼ Ricardo Valdez 112 2 11 0








    Buenos Aires
    W
    KO 8/?


     
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  13. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Bump.