who looked better against christain hammer ? ortiz or povetkin in your opinion ????

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  1. daverobin

    daverobin Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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  2. POTUS

    POTUS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The problem is Poohvetkin couldn't put a dent in Hammer. Sasha is a cruiserweight. Poohvetkin gets manhandled vs the top Heavyweights. Why does Poohvetkin always lose to fighters taller than 6'3?
     
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  3. infini IV

    infini IV Dillian Whyte. KTFO like I said he would Full Member

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    Care to post a list of all the fighters he has fought 6'3" and higher vs all the fighters he has lost too?
     
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  4. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Povetkin wasn't bloodied up and didn't eat right hands all night long...lol

    Ortiz may have won 8 rounds but he looked like a novice at times struggling to do so, with a puzzled look on his face as to why was his opponent fighting back and not going down.

    Is this really a serious thread ? :watchout:
     
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  5. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    The reason Povetkin didn't eat right hands all night is because he isn't a southpaw.

    Neither one looked great against Christian, he's become quite adept at spoiling his way through a match and making his opponents look like ****. Povetkin held way too much late, Ortiz didn't but ate too much leather. Yeah this is a serious thread, when both guys look like crap beating a guy everyone thought they'd blow away, it should be up for discussion as to who looked worse.
     
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  6. infini IV

    infini IV Dillian Whyte. KTFO like I said he would Full Member

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    He has a multitude of wins over fighters 6,3" as far as fighters taller then 6'3" see the list below

    David Bostic 6'5" povetkin win by TKO
    Patrice L'Heureux 6'5" povetkin win by KO
    Nicolai Firtha 6'6" povetkin win via UD
    Andrzej Wawrzyk 6'5" povetkin win by TKO
    Wladimir Klitschko 6'6" WK win by UD
    Manuel Charr 6′ 3½" Povetkin win by KO
    Mariusz Wach 6′ 7½" Povetkin win by TKO
    Johann Duhaupas 6'5" Povetkin win by KO
    David Price 6'8" Povetkin win by KO
    Anthony Joshua 6'6" AJ win by TKO
     
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  7. sp550i

    sp550i Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Great answer
     
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  8. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Its not a serious thread if one guy ( Ortiz ) is getting punched in the face every round with blood all over his face and out his mouth and the other didn't ( Povetkin )., and has the guy so afraid he doesn't throw punches at him which was also Povetkin having Hammer turtle up ,at no point in time did that fight do Ortiz a service for a title shot . lol

    How about we change the thread title to who looked bad and who would you think would geta title shot after that fight ?

    The reason why Povetkin didn't eat right hands is because he's far better at slipping shots and countering as well, you cant penalize someone just because its there style .Ortiz is open to that punch all night long which is mind boggling how people think or thought he had any chance vs Joshua . It actually took this fight to make them realize that, it just goes to show they don't know what they're watching and how far off they are ..

    Povetkin who fought Joshua would defeat Ortiz. It is a better win then Wilders Ortiz win. Not just on difficulty of opponent but no controversy at all, point blank KO! End of story shut the lights out..
     
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  9. Serge

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    Updated old post

    Perez 6'1'' WTKO1
    Takam 6' 2½'' WKO10
    Charr 6' 3½'' WKO7
    Bango 6'3'' WKO2
    Wawrzyk 6'5'' WTKO3
    Rahman 6'2½'' WTKO2
    Huck 6'2'' WMD12
    Boswell 6'3'' WKO8
    Chageav 5'11'' WUD12
    Firtha 6'6'' WUD10
    Oruh 6'3'' WKO5
    Mora 6'2½'' WTKO5
    Nolan 6'2'' WKO3
    Estrada 6'1'' WUD10
    Sykes 6'2'' WTKO4
    Chambers 6'1'' WUD12
    Byrd 6'1½'' WTKO11
    Donald 6'3'' WUD10
    L'Heureux 6'5'' WKO2
    Bostice 6'5'' WTKO2
    Mayfield 6'3'' WKO3
    Malone 6'3'' WTK05
    Wlad 6'6'' LUD12
    Wach 6'7½'' WRSF12
    Duhaupas 6'5″ WKO6
    Rudenko 6'0½'' WUD12
    Hammer 6'2½'' WUD12
    Price 6'8'' WKO5
    Joshua 6'6'' LTKO7

    16 opponents 6'3'' or over and he's 14-2 (12 KOs) against them. He broke his hand in the 1st or 2nd round against one of those 14 victims of his who took him the distance and the other one was teak-tough and only stopped once in their career (Larry Donald) against a prime Vitali TKO10. And Wlad was allowed to get away with blue murder against Povetkin and he was 39 y/o when he fought AJ and in both those fights he was giving away a lot of weight, height and reach.
     
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  10. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    You're great at bluster and pretending like you're an authority aren't you? You nor I have a clue as to who would emerge victorious in a match between Povetkin and Ortiz based on their shared in ring debacles against Hammer, because neither man is Hammer, so they'll actually take their match against one another far more seriously and actually come into the ring with better game plans. Kind of like Ortiz came better prepared for Wilder and avoided his long straight right quite well, and Povetkin showed up far better prepared for AJ than he was for Price. You know, because boxers tend to prepare themselves better for better opponents. Its a pretty consistent pattern throughout boxing history.;)

    Oh... you and your triangle theories Galvatron.:lol:
     
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  11. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    Fury far greater than both. knock down Hammer and made him quit on his stool..

    The rightful WBC and Lineal Champ is a cut above both...
     
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  12. Mitch87

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    Povetkin clearly looked the better out of the two against Hammer who gave him no issues unlike Ortiz. Povetkin also has the vast superior resume to Ortiz.
     
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  13. daverobin

    daverobin Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    i dont know why ortiz didnt continue body attack ??? every time he hit hammer with a straight left to the body ,,,,he can see hammers face in grimace then followed by his hands going down ...then not continue this body attack is beyond me
     
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  14. Birmingham

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  15. infini IV

    infini IV Dillian Whyte. KTFO like I said he would Full Member

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    We have already proven POTUS doesn't know what he is talking about, see the lists above
     
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