Who Necks? Sam Peters-Floyd Patterson (SWAP)

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Kamikaze, Apr 21, 2021.

  1. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Nov 24, 2005

    I don't know about Griff, and I'm no stalker, but I wouldn't mind hooking up with you and your young giggling boxers sometime, sure.
    We could all giggle and laugh and giggle some more to videos of Sugar Ray Robinson and Willie Pep on youtube.
    And we could smirk and chuckle to videos of Rocky Marciano.
    And then one of your young modern boxers might say something really dumb.
    And we could laugh out loud and giggle some more, and smirk, and giggle.

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  2. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Jul 30, 2014
    I don't have a horse in this race, but I've pmed Pat regarding his gym, trainers, etc and was able to verify his claims, but will not post it here, as I don't want to betray confidences.
  3. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Nov 24, 2005
    How did you think his guys would do against prime Harry Greb ?
  4. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

    May 18, 2006
    It’s a ****ing boxing gym not a matter of national security lol
  5. MR_TUT

    MR_TUT Member banned Full Member

    Apr 25, 2021
  6. boxingjunky

    boxingjunky Member Full Member

    Nov 8, 2020
    Thats true but Old Archie has nowhere near the durability of Toney. I think Peter beats him and more than likely stops him
  7. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Jul 30, 2014
    I can't really say considering I've never seen any of his guys fight, nor Greb as their is no footage of any of his fights.
    I was lucky enough to receive an invitation from Pat to see his guys fight when I'm in the area.

    Unfortunately, don't think I'm going to receive an invite to see Greb fight anytime soon. :lol:
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  8. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Nov 24, 2005
    Well, that's the kind of thing that makes him one of the absolute worst posters on this forum. The fact that he'll tell everyone he has novices under his wing who'd destroyed Harry Greb .... but no one has seen Greb fight and never will nor have they seen or heard of his novices, so it's just an ignorant meaningless comment the whole purpose of which is to disrespect a legend.

    The stupidity involved if he actually believes it is another thing entirely, the total lack of understanding of such rare superior talent playing its role in a career like Greb's, nevermind some weird assumption that people on this forum never boxed, trained, sparred or been to a boxing gym, and he's some rarity with esoteric knowledge because he bangs on about it, despite the fact that many of us are getting on in age a bit now and know the game a bit. Or the fact he somehow ends up in gyms where fighters say stupid stuff like SRR wasn't all that, brain damage perhaps. It's just an endless pile of nonsensical ignorance.
    But, hey, we get all sort of cranks on the internet, so it's something to laugh about really.:lol:
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  9. Kamikaze

    Kamikaze Bye for now! Full Member

    Oct 12, 2020
    Well, I don't think you should be so offended if someone on the internet is spewing nonsense.
    I don't think Greb will mind, even if he was still with us it is your choice to react.
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  10. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Nov 24, 2005
    To be fair, I find it amusing and don't mind or get offended.
    But when I see sometimes a load of people on this forum tentatively agreeing with it, liking the posts, or taking it seriously, it does baffle me a little bit. Each to their own I suppose.
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  11. Pat M

    Pat M Active Member Full Member

    Jun 20, 2017
    You can ask my fan club (Griffo and Unforgiven) who apparently document everything I write, but I don't remember commenting on Greb other than writing that if I saw the following video I wouldn't hesitate to allow a fighter to fight Greb. We all have different experiences, but if I saw a fighter training who looks/moves like the guy in the video, I wouldn't avoid him. I don't know my fan club, but from reading their posts they seem to be the type who are more impressed with what they read/heard from some "historian" than evidence that is right in front of them on video. To use video requires knowledge of boxing fundamentals and technique. From their writing, the "fan club" may be lacking that knowledge.

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  12. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Hagiographer Full Member

    Oct 28, 2017
    I'm curious what this says about your Bert Sugar obsession, since you bring him up more than anyone else on the board, and perhaps more than the rest of the board combined.
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  13. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Addict Full Member

    May 30, 2019
    It's not whether Pat M is boxing coach or not, anybody can be boxing coach. It's about all his double standards and stupid things he says because he likes to troll people on classic forum.

    He can praise someone like Peter for his technical skills in one sentence and say that Schmeling is bar room level fighter.
    He says that being big, powerful and strong doesn't mean anything in boxing and then he can't stop talking how Wilder or Peter are so tough to beat because they are "athletic freaks" or "tanks". He's the one who's so in love with technical boxing and at the same time he sees nothing special in Archie Moore.

    His only response is that "you know nothing about boxing and you only listen Bert Sugar", because he's a troll. Of course, posts like "my fanclub" or "are you a couple" shouldn't be even commented, it's the level of 10 years old, not too bright child.
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  14. Devon

    Devon Well-Known Member Full Member

    Dec 31, 2018
    He beats Ingemar Johannson
  15. Pat M

    Pat M Active Member Full Member

    Jun 20, 2017
    BPV, Bert Sugar and "historian" are used interchangeably by me. Sugar/historians know about boxing history/lineage, I don't value their opinion about boxers.

    70sfan, please show me where I wrote that being "big, powerful and strong doesn't mean anything in boxing." You can't and you LIED. Why do you care what I think of Moore, Schmeling, or Peter? I do not care what you think about Moore, Schmeling, or Peter, or anything boxing related. You're like the two other fan club members, wanting my approval and getting mad when you don't get it.
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