Is this a ****ing joke? The better question would be who on his resume is not better than Pascal...I have only read the first post, so I hope I'm not falling into a "ha ha ******, of course Pascal sucks but look how mad you got" kind of deal. I mean I honestly can't believe anyone would even think of putting him on the level of JMM, SSM, ODLH, Castillo, Chico, Hatton hell even Gatti is better than Pascal.
Come on... Hernandez s no more special than a guy like Mares. He has a lot of stamina, can take big ass shots, and throws a lot of punches. I don't see anything special about him. Pascal is not a dumb come foward fighter. That's Cloud. Dumb, come foward fighters don't beat Chad Dawson. ****, smart guys like Adamek and Johnson couldn't beat him. Why is this board suddenly underrating what is a huge Hopkins SHOULD BE WIN. You can debate who's better on Mayweather's resume, but guys like Hernandez and Chavez, defenitely don't make the cut.
And people talkin **** about Pascal because he lost to Froch.... Turns out Froch is a pretty good fighter. He has an excellent jab that happens to be long a hell, has relatively quick hands, and very good timing. But before Hopkins took Pascal's manhood, many people on this board were saying Pascal would school Froch at this point. I'm sure it was some guys on this thread who for some reason hate Froch, but now since I brought up Mayweather's name, they can't wait to discredit Pascal.
p4p Chico would beat the unholy dog**** out of Pascal in a brutal, bloody, noncompetitive slaughter. So would Castillo. ****, p4p I would bet on Burton over Pascal. In other words, this thread is ******ed.
I was talking **** about him before the fight as well, Dawson was easily dominating him whenever he bothered moving his hands. People were on Pascal's jock the way they're on Martinez' right now, and Pascal is even more ordinary than Martinez will prove to be.
Add Jesus Chavez and Genaro Hernandez, Carlos Hernandez, Hatton, Judah, and Manfredy. Pascal just isn't all that special. Let me say this gently, since your heart is in the right place: yes, Bernard is an ATG fighter, you are correct in thinking so. The Pascal win isn't great because Pascal is a great fighter. It's a great win because Pascal is a good fighter.. good enough to gain a title after a lackluster performance by a far from dominant champ, and it's a miracle that Bernard has enough left to compete against even good fighters at 45 years old. Pascal is two steps (at least) down from a prime Hopkins p4p level, but Hard Nard whooped his ass at an age when most guys get winded and sore playing touch football.
I know you're in love with Mayweather, but damn man... You're going way out of your way to discredit Pascal when even if Dawson SHOULD OR COULD OR WOULD, he still got that ass beat. And the only guys that have beaten Pascal so far had great jabs. Neither Castillo, Coralles, Hernandez, Manfredy, etc have good jabs. I'm not saying Coralles wasn't a great win, but the other guys you listed are not on Pascal's level.
And if you think Martinez is a garbage fighter then you don't know the sport very well. Both Pavlik and Cintron had the reach and long right hands to beat Martinez on the outside, but both were beaten at their own game. And in the Pavlik fight towards the end, and the second Williams fight, Martinez proved his versatility by battering them on the inside. Martinez may not be on Bernard's level, but nobody is.... Including Floyd.
Dude what ****ing "level" is Pascal on? His biggest win is a God Damn technical decision in a fight he could have been stopped in, a majority draw with a 45 year old man, and a loss to Froch. Dude, Pascal ain't ****, I mean he beat a lethargic Dawson in a ****ing technical decision, essentially on technicality and you are on his sack. He got the living **** beat out of him by Hopkins, and Froch ****ed him up too...I mean how did he get on a "level" above JMM, ODLH, Hatton, Chico, Castillo, SSM I mean GTFOH...this could be the stupidest ****ing thread ever started on this site and that is saying ALOT!
Are you out of your mind? I love Mayweather? hahahahahahah.... Not even close, son, and you can check my posts. That doesn't change the fact that Castillo is 10x the fighter Pascal is, Corrales and Genaro are on a whole other level from Pascal as well. Manfredy is just more technically complete. p4p, let's say, Pascal could compete with but would lose to Manfredy, Burton and Gatti. Jesus Chavez would absolutely blow him out of the ring, and it's a shame that you don't know enough about Chavez to know that. It would still be a great accomplishment for, let's say, a 40 yr old Mayweather to beat a Gatti - Manfredy level champ wouldn't it? That is basically the situation here.
Castillo was better. A past it but still very good DLH was better as well, and maybe even the version of Mosley he fought. Genero Hernandez was certainly a better fighter, though he was at the end of his career. I'd say Hatton and Coralles as well. Pascal's basically Judah level, which is above all of Floyd's other opponents, but not quite at the level of those.
oscar dela hoya shane mosley juan manuel marquez chico would be a close call and the castillo that fought mayweather would have stoped pascal as soon as he would have gased in the 7th. hmm let me think if they are more..hmmm..um pascal is reminding me of a prime judah so far.fast can box or brawl when he wants, but dont like pressure and fades half way through.maybe not as bad as judah but i did say a prime judah.