Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by VeryMoistWalrus, Apr 8, 2021.
There we go.
Deontay Wilder doesn't hit harder than Vitali Klitschko......Marciano on the other hand, hit harder than Cleveland William and Joe Louis.
And? Were talking about how hard someone hits, also one of the guys he listed stated three other guys hit harder than Marciano but I wonder if that's due to bitterness.
If you're referring to the Chris Areola's interview, he said Vitali was more of a thudding puncher wii tried to bash your head in and go through you and wilder was more like a whip, and explosive fast twitch puncher who vibrated your whole body. He did not say one hit harder than the other, he said they were different types of punchers.
No way in hell does Vitali hit harder than Wilder landing all those flush bombs on Areola, Briggs, Peter, etc without dropping them.
I understood that from the beginning but you apparently don't understand what you're looking at. It's actually debatable whose more skilled between wilder and Rocky, you aren't saying much comparing the two and saying one is better.
"The hardest punch I was ever hit with by far was against Vitali Klitschko"
And yet wilder stopped him faster than Vitali did with a broken hand no less.
Not sure at all on the Vitali assertion. I keep thinking of Deontay's one shot power...I didn't see a lot of that from V. I am open to being corrected. Not sure Marciano's left was as hard as Louis', though his right probably was.
Yeah, I'm not convinced by Vitali as a puncher.
He hit Briggs at will for 12 sounds and despite dealing out grievous damage, couldn't stop Briggs.
Also hit Arreola with pretty much everything but Chris was never on ***** street.
Hit the less-than-durable Sanders with many hard, flush shots before the ref stepped in.
Solid puncher yes, but many hit with more force.
Chuck wepner was stopped in 3 round by foreman, and the guy in your profil picture took 9 rounds to get the job done, yet Wepner claimed this guy hit harder than big george!
Walcott actually claimed Marciano hit harder than Louis, and Keene Simmons who fought both Rocky Marciano and Cleveland big cat Williams said Rocky hit harder.
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Jose Ribalta was built kind of like Wilder too if I remember correctly
Foreman got Wepner out of there as soon as possible swinging for the fences. He fractured Wepner's eye lid and caused a major cut that made the fight get stopped early. Liston gave Wepner a sustained beating operating behind a heavy jab and splattering his face/causing stiches, etc. Liston was always content to box unless someone was badly hurt while Foreman was always eager to end things quickly.
There are also common opponents where Liston ended things faster than Foreman and vice versa.
My point is you cannot solely rely on the testimony of an opponent. We can SEE Arreola's chin holding up getting nailed round after round by a prime Vitali who threw everything but the kitchen sink at him while against Wilder, Arreola cracked under the pressure, took a knee, and go stopped faster despite Wilder having a broken hand. You do realize if a fighter has a broken hand they tense up and do not put as much into a punch?
And as I mentioned, they are different kinds of punchers. A blugdeoning/clubbing punch feels totally different from an explosive whip like punch. They are apples and oranges.
There are waaaay too many Vitali opponents who took bomb after bomb from him yet didn't go down even once. Nobody just stood there taking bombs from Wilder the way they did against Vitali.
Obviously Vitali hits hard but like you said I HIGHLY doubt he hits harder than Wilder seeing as quite a few guys have said Wilder hits harder than Wladimir and Chris Byrd said Wladimir hits WAY harder than Vitali.
Danny Williams said Tyson hit harder than Vitali and Kevin Johnson said Tyson Fury and Alex Leapai hit harder than Vitali too.
Sometimes i wonder how Rocky ever won a fight let alone went 49-0
Imagine the same standards and scrutiny applied to every great
By some of the claims and descriptions no way this guy could ever have been even a professional level fighter