Who punches harder @ crusierweight.........Haye or Maccarenelli???

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  1. FLINT ISLAND

    FLINT ISLAND PENYRHEOL Full Member

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    Before all ESB Brit Forum regulars groan about another Enzo Mac thread.

    Rest assured this thread is not to debate who is the best out of Haye or Macca or any debate of a rematch.

    It is to debate quite simply - pound for pound at Crusierweight - who was the hardest puncher.

    Both dynamite in theior fists.

    Haye only ever got taken the distance by one guy - who also took Enzo Macc the distance.

    Enzo Macc was once famously described by Frank Warren as the "hardest pound for pound puncher in the world"

    but then I heard Haye say he was the "hardest pound for pound puncher in the world"

    apparantly during some punching scientific test at Swansea Univesity the force of being hit by Macca is like being hit by a transit van.

    I cant believe this is true - literally.

    But Macca claimed to be a bigger puncher than Haye.

    both have high KO's

    and both fought each other

    but Macca never really landed

    who in Brit Forum regualars opinion do you consider the hardest puncher and why?
     
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  2. BaronBrad

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    Frank Warren also had us fooled that Enzo Macc was a truely world class fighter.
     
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  3. ScouseLad

    ScouseLad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Haye has proven power at a high level. Enzo doesnt.

    Only one answer as it stands.
     
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  4. FLINT ISLAND

    FLINT ISLAND PENYRHEOL Full Member

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    if not world class what class do you consider Enzo Mac then?
     
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  5. mr_swagger

    mr_swagger Member Full Member

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    I've seen Macarinelli throw some sickening punches. But Haye is both powerful and extremely accurate with precision punches that land on the button. He has the best of both worlds. I'd have to go with Haye.
     
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  6. FLINT ISLAND

    FLINT ISLAND PENYRHEOL Full Member

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    Remeber at heavyweight - Haye is gonna be more poweful as the Bonin fight suggests

    At heavyweight I suspect Haye with all the natural advantages will be more powerful than Maccarenelli

    I mean when they were both confined to the crusierweight limit.
     
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  7. BIG WORM

    BIG WORM Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Haye by a lightyear, Enzo macs powers overrated.. Enzos nothing more than a domestic cleaner

    End of story.

    Haye and Enzo are in different leagues

    Haye to ENzo is like Floyd mayweather to Peter Buckley
     
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  8. kurt2006

    kurt2006 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Having spared with both I can say they are both **** and do not posses much of a punch. I could knock both out whilst singing Tom Jones classics and juggling 12 ice cubes.
     
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  9. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    ??Enzo KO'd Marcelo Dominguez who is more durable then anyone Haye has beaten.
     
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  10. kurt2006

    kurt2006 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    or Floyd to Gavin Rees.
     
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  11. kurt2006

    kurt2006 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes but Domiguez was only over for the dosh the fat *****.
     
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  12. FLINT ISLAND

    FLINT ISLAND PENYRHEOL Full Member

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    dont you mean Macca KO'd Dominguez?
     
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  13. robpalmer135

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    European at best. in my opinion Enzo Macc has never beaten a world champion. to be a world champion you have to either, beat the current world champion, win the vacant title in a bout between the number 1 and 2 ranked fighters.

    Enzo Macceranelli never did this, the highest ranked opponent he beat was Wayne Braithwaite, who was ranked number 7 by the WBO. His other defences were agianst 2 guys ranked 15 by the WBO (the least respected of the 4 titles)

    When he beat Dominguez, the guy was shot and only there for the payday.

    Enzo has only fought 1 opponent that could be classed as above british title level, Wayne Braithwaite, and that went 12 rounds.
    Haye has beaten Gurov, Johanession, Fragomeni, Mormeck, Bonin and of course Macceranelli. He KO all these guys. His KO% is much higher.

    HAYE IS A BIGGER PUNCHER THAN ENZO SIMPLE AS, THIS IS NOT EVEN A DEBATE. EVEN THE PEOPLE WHO THOUGHT ENZO WOULD WIN WERE SAYING HAYE WAS A BIGGER PUNCHER.

    FLINT YOUR A BORING LOSER! GET OVER THIS ENZO OBSESSION!
     
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  14. headers14

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    Haye without question
     
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  15. FLINT ISLAND

    FLINT ISLAND PENYRHEOL Full Member

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    maybe so

    but this is just to debate who is the hardest pound for pound puncher at Crusierweight

    for example

    A British level fighter may have more of a harder punch than a european level fighter

    this is not to debate who is the best

    this is to debate

    who would hit you the hardest at crusierweight - Haye or Macca?
     
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