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  1. Nay_Sayer

    Nay_Sayer On Rick James Status banned Full Member

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    I think Shane's best change @ winning will be to turn it into a dog fight. His lack of an effective jab and suspect defense means he will be eating a LOT of PBF right hands.

    If I were Shane, I'd concentrate on Floyd's ribcage.
     
  2. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's not so much the jab itself....it's Shanes lack of head movement and upright stance when throwing the jab. And usually it's not a stiff jab....just a range finding or a way to set up his power shots. I think Naz will work on that with Shane but I'm not sure how much he can change in this old dog.
     
  3. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    I agree with Nay_Sayer in that he will have to make it a dogfight. I also agree with you in that the lack of head movement and straight up stance will be like feeding candy to a baby against Floyd. I also agree that you can't teach an old dog new tricks, meaning if his head is up when he jabs now, it will be up in the late rounds of the fight. That is why it's Nazim's job to find what Shane NATURALLY does that will trouble Floyd and have him exclusively do those things.

    If I was Shane's trainer, here's what I would do:

    RULES:

    1. Forget the jab as a weapon, and only jab to exit or to set up a lead right.

    2. Shane is usually totally protected when he leads with his looping right hand, if I recall he hides his head well on that punch. So this will be his primary weapon...it is in every fight, but this will be even more important in this fight (will explain later)

    3. NEVER throw body shots from the outside, because he is straight up when he throws those as well.

    STRATEGY:

    1. Don't make the mistake of TRYING to force Floyd to fight every second of every round. A.) Most of what you will end up doing will be ineffective and the judges will know this... B.) Floyd is the better conditioned athlete...and C.) That is not Shane's style. Shane is great at doing what he has always done. Make him fight a different style and he might not be great at that.
    So I would have Shane actually fight at Floyd's pace. If Floyd wants to throw 20 punches a round, fine. Paw with the jab from the outside, where you know he can't counter it.

    2. Shane is fast, still very fast. He should use this speed to get off first. If he plays the waiting game, Floyd doesn't know when he is going to strike. Obviously he has to mix it up a bit, Floyd's too good to do the same exact thing against all fight. But for the most part I'd have him lead with his Right hand. Land it on the head/Gloves/Shoulder...and fall into Floyd and wrap him up and walk him backwards....EVERY TIME. He has to play to his strengths and he cannot use his physical strength by punching air all night, he needs to impose his strength in the clinches and wear Floyd down. Another one of Shanes strenghts are his chin, so any short counters he takes coming in he should be able to handle.

    3. When your inside, bang on him. left hooks, uppercuts, body shots, hit his arms.....anything. "Ricky Hatton" him until the ref pulls you off, or until you see an opportunity and back the eff up fast throwing your jab.

    4. Repeat


    This will force Floyd, if it works, to adjust and become more aggressive (which is the fight you wantedd in the first place) or to maybe think he is actually winning and not make any adjustments. It will be an ugly fight but will be a close one either way it's judged :deal
     
  4. Charlie

    Charlie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fairly decent analysis of how you think the fight will go, and its pretty close to what i think Shane needs to do. I think if Shane does do as effective as this and manages to land clean hard shots hes definitely in with a shout of shocking the world, hes certainly no Ricky Hatton.
     
  5. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    I don't think the fight will go that way dude, I don't know IF Shane will be able to do all of that. That is just what I think his best chance will be :good
     
  6. Nay_Sayer

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    I don't know about that.

    Hatton tried leading with right hands and was eating hard left hooks for his trouble.
     
  7. Chessboxer

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    Worse big fight name ever.

    With the history Mosley/Mayweather have they could have done A LOT better
     
  8. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Shane isn't Hatton dude.

    Hattons got little arms, has a average lead right and throws it square while he's bouncing back n forth on his toes like a damn rabbit on crack. When Shane throws it he is in much better position.
     
  9. Chessboxer

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    Yeah but Hatton has short arms and isn't as fast as Mosley.

    Mosley is levels above Hatton.
     
  10. bandido

    bandido The Black Bandit Full Member

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    I have not seen any news on the fight name. Is this for real? Might be the worst fight name ever.
     
  11. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    As long as we get a good fight Wii R Good. The title of the fight can be forgiven.
     
  12. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    It is for real, press conference was yesterday :good :lol:
     
  13. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Excellent post bro.......I agree 100%! Can't count Shane out but you are like me....I see the style of Floyd being a HUGE obstacle for Shane at this stage of his career. A dog fight is a must for Shane to get in where he fits in. A toe to toe battle is not in the stars for Floyd...he'll avoid any resemblence of a toe to toe battle with Mosley and for good reason.
     
  14. boxingfanneato

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    its a good stratagy but i don't see this working for too long. i actually see him getting caught if he tries this then he goes back to his old style and ends up getting dominated. if he backs up while throwing that jab he will eat a hook or a straight right. floyd wins a competative fight something like 8-4 IMO
     
  15. charlievint

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    Shane will have more advantages than Hatton who gave away power, size, speed and experience to Floyd. Shane will do much better than Hatton but it may look similar in some spots b/c Floyd will be pot shotting, using the jab and keeping Shane at bay for as long as possible each round....but he won't be able to keep Shane off early on for 3 mins of every round.