Who ranks ahead of Riddick Bowe respective two/three wins over Evander Holyfield?

Why are Bowe's 2 wins over Holyfield better than Liston's 2 win over Patterson?
Because Patterson was not a natural heavyweight?
Well guess what, neither was holyfield!
Anyway, Ali's 2 win over Frazier could top that.

 

I think fighters should only be judged as great within their own weight class within the context of the time they fought in. Otherwise, a lot of guys that were once heavyweights just wouldn't cut in anymore. Hell, with how big the heavies are these days, prime George Foreman wouldn't qualify as a heavyweight anymore!

 

Ali`s third win over Frazier wasn`t very good, he was out of shape and tyhey were both way past it, it was just a brawl.

 

Schmeling's single win over Louis and Frazier's over Ali both trump Bowe beating Holyfield twice, IMO.

 

I put Bowe ahead of Vitali. but the names ahead of him for me
Ali
Louis
Marciano
Liston
Foreman
Holmes
Frazier
Tyson
Lewis
Wlad
Those names aren’t in any particular order just ahead of Bowe. As for Liston Patterson and Holy are about even in my book. But Liston also holds wins against Machen Folley Williams and Valdez. The rest don’t shouldn’t need an explanation. Bowe could have been a top ten guy just got sloppy and lacked better names. Also Liston performed better defensively and offensively.

 

A better win at HW since Bowe beat Holyfield , name it?

 

Also, if we only care about getting the W on paper, Holmes wasn't that far past it when Spinks beat him twice.

 

Hold on a minute....I've been reading for years on this forum that the only reason Holyfield lost to anyone was because he had issues with his heart.
What credit is due for beating him?

 

Agree. But we can say the same thing about Bowe's last fight with Holyfield.
Evander was diagnosed with hepatite C and heart problem, while Bowe was getting more and more out of shape.

 

1000000% AGREE.

 

Prime Foreman was 6'3, 220lb-230lb, Bryant Jennings is around that size. He'd still be a heavyweight, just a small one

 

I think the first Holyfield fight proved sufficiently that Bowe had Holyfield's number prime for prime. That was when both guys were at their best, or closest to it.