Who ranks higher? Ali or Duran?

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  1. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Then why isn't he ranked higher than Ali on most atg lists?
     
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  2. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    1.Srr
    2.Armstrong
    3.Ali
     
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  3. blackbolt396

    blackbolt396 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He is on mine and so you don't get mad I have them both in the top 10 :good
     
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  4. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    You're acting as if Ali is consistently a consensus #1 on these things, and that Duran is a bottom of the barrel tomato can.

    Incidentally, in the series of surveys I did several years back in the ESB Classic Forum, Duran did place higher than Ali (by the slimmest of margins, however).

    P4P RESULTS
    *1. 1102 Sugar Ray Robinson (34)
    2. 677 Harry Greb (7)
    3. 617 Henry Armstrong (2)
    4. 542 Sam Langford (8 )
    5. 265 Ezzard Charles
    6. 236 Roberto Duran
    7. 231 Muhammad Ali (1)
    8. 179 Bob Fitzsimmons (2)
    9. 152 Willie Pep
    10. 138 Benny Leonard (1)

    Read more at http://www.eastsideboxing.com/2012/...nal-8-weight-classes-p4p/#KI2DW3I42RuGDX1K.99
     
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  5. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    The classic forum has a hard on for Duran and think he can walk on water. So it doesn't surprise me most real atg list have Ali anywhere from 1-3 or 5 th at the lowest. The esb list is one of the worst I've seen.
     
    Pimp C, Oct 23, 2013
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  6. blackbolt396

    blackbolt396 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1. 1SRR2Armstrong3Greb8Duran10Ali
     
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  7. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Well, I think the compilation of survey lists (that included the original 8 weight classes, and a separate one for P4P) are pretty damn good myself.

    Results listed below.

    And please, pray tell, what constitutes a "real" ATG list?

    :smoke

    HEAVYWEIGHT DIVISION RESULTS:

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    Heavyweights Receiving Votes: 22
    Number of Voting Participants: 80
    Poll Started: June 23, 2009
    Poll Closed: July 19, 2009

    To read and debate the All-Time Heavyweight Poll:
    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?p=4526400&posted=1#post4526400

    To read the article inspired by this survey:
    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=20560&more=1

    LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT DIVISION RESULTS:

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    Light Heavyweights Receiving Votes: 26
    Number of Voting Participants: 47
    Poll Started: July 20, 2009
    Poll Closed: August 20, 2009

    To read and debate the All-Time Light Heavyweight Poll:
    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=156260&page=12

    To read the article inspired by this survey:
    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=20966&more=1

    MIDDLEWEIGHT DIVISION RESULTS:

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    Middleweights Receiving Votes: 36
    Number of Voting Participants: 45
    Poll Started: August 26, 2009
    Poll Closed: September 23, 2009

    To read and debate the All-Time Middleweight Poll:
    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=164758&page=14

    To read the article inspired by this survey:
    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=21290&more=1

    WELTERWEIGHT DIVISION RESULTS:

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    Welterweights Receiving Votes: 35
    Number of Voting Participants: 43
    Poll Started: September 23, 2009
    Poll Closed: October 22, 2009

    To read and debate the All-Time Welterweight Poll:
    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=171361&page=14

    To read the article inspired by this survey:
    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=21708&more=1

    LIGHTWEIGHT DIVISION RESULTS:

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    Lightweights Receiving Votes: 27
    Number of Voting Participants: 32
    Poll Started: October 30, 2009
    Poll Closed: November 19, 2009


    To read and debate the All-Time Lightweight Poll:
    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=179997&page=15

    To read the article inspired by this survey:
    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=22210&more=1

    FEATHERWEIGHT DIVISION RESULTS:

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    Featherweights Receiving Votes: 28
    Number of Voting Participants: 30
    Poll Started: December 9, 2009
    Poll Closed: January 19, 2010

    To read and debate the All-Time Featherweight Poll:
    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=191008&page=7

    To read the article inspired by this survey:
    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=22787&more=1

    BANTAMWEIGHT DIVISION RESULTS:

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    Bantamweights Receiving Votes: 26
    Number of Voting Participants: 23
    Poll Started: February 10, 2010
    Poll Closed: April 27, 2010

    To read and debate the All-Time Bantamweight Poll:
    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=205064&page=4

    To read the article inspired by this survey:
    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=24133&more=1

    FLYWEIGHT DIVISION RESULTS:

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    Flyweights Receiving Votes: 24
    Number of Voting Participants: 16
    Poll Started: April 29, 2010
    Poll Closed: September 22, 2010

    To read and debate the All-Time Flyweight Poll:
    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=222555&page=5

    To read the article inspired by this survey:
    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=25169&more=1

    P4P RESULTS:

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    Fighters Receiving Votes: 41
    Number of Voting Participants: 56
    Poll Started: September 23, 2010
    Poll Closed: October 27, 2010

    To read and debate the All-Time P4P Poll:
    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?p=11083374&posted=1#post11083374
     
    Rumsfeld, Oct 23, 2013
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  8. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Ring magazine top 80 boxers for starters
    1.Srr
    2.Armstrong
    3.Ali
     
    Pimp C, Oct 23, 2013
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  9. modernfonzie

    modernfonzie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I dont even know where to start with you. Thats the most idiotic thing I've ever heard in my life. What is wrong with you. You have no business on a boxing forum if you can say Duran. DURAN. Mr "NO MAS". MR I CANT BE DISCIPLINED AND KEEP MY WEIGHT DOWN. A dude whos better known by who he lost to than who he beat is better technically than Ali was.

    Thats ridiculous.
     
    modernfonzie, Oct 23, 2013
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  10. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    And where did they rank Duran?
     
    Rumsfeld, Oct 23, 2013
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  11. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I couldn't agree more. They just had a no mas special on espn. Duran is still remembered by casuals and some fans for his quit job in the biggest fight of his life.
     
    Pimp C, Oct 23, 2013
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  12. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    5 th or 6th
     
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  13. blackbolt396

    blackbolt396 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fought in 5 different decades gave SRL his first loss and jumped a weight class to do it .
     
    blackbolt396, Oct 23, 2013
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  14. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    That kind of reinforced my point, that the 2 are extremely close in the rankings, and it ultimately comes down to personal preference.

    :smoke
     
    Rumsfeld, Oct 23, 2013
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  15. blackbolt396

    blackbolt396 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    True
     
    blackbolt396, Oct 23, 2013
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