Who ranks higher all-time: John Ruiz or Vitali Klitschko?

Gotta go with Huggy Bear I mean Ruiz.

 

Jones, Toney, Tua, and Valuev are a step below Lewis and Byrd (both of whom Vitali was at least ahead against before retiring on injuries).

Ruiz may have the better legacy, but his losses are worse than Vitali's.

 

I dunno, maybe Vitali based on what could have been, and we all know what Ruiz was, and it wasnt anything close to Vitali.

 

Ruiz going away as he actually fought good competition and is a 2 time WBA champ who defended his title many times, Vitaly on the other hand is all hype with no substance, the highlight of his career was getting beat up by a shot LL.

 

It's not even CLOSE. Unlike Ruiz, Vitali fought WITHIN the rules, and didn't use illegal and disreputable tactics like excessive holding or faking low blows. :-(

Ruiz is, and always has been, nothing more than a talentless clubfighter who would have been lucky to win a regional title without the influence of Don King. He is a fraud, and a disgrace to the sport, and most boxing fans know it!:yep

 

Yeah but Ruiz only has one quality win and a draw agianst Holy, and lost to everyone important including former middleweight Jones. While Both of Vitali's losses were questionable. Plus Vitali can still come back and win a title.

 

I don't want to hear that Vitali retired due to injuries twice. That's skating over the truth.

You will not find another fighter whose fans say he retired due to injuries when the other fighter cut his face into ribbons with a punch. That's called a TKO. I don't care if he was ahead on the scorecards. He got stopped by something caused by a punch.

Ruiz fought and beat better opposition. But he lost more than Vitali as well. So they are about even. Vitali also had a Ring title.

 

Dood had a separated shoulder in one fight which he was clearly in charge, and in the other he was ahead of the scorecards and was stopped, and we all saw what happened when it was stopped, Vitali was very upset and demanded a rematch and Lewis Never gave it to him, a true champ honors a re-match specially when he behind on scorecards. Barrera did it against Juarez, Louis did it against Walcott, and Lewis took the ***** road and retired! That in itself says something about Vitali. He didnt want it to be stopped he wanted to go on, but they didnt let him.

 

BS on the true champ honors a rematch crap. It would be different if he fought someone instead of Vitali. He retired.

 

Ruiz. Just stop and think. What was Vitalis best win? "The Fat Man" Kirk Johnson? Hoffman? Comparing the resume of Ruiz and Vitali, Ruiz comes out on top. And to top it off, Vitalis best showing was a loss. I can hear it now in 20 years. "Man that Vitali was a great one. Did you see that loss to Lewis?"
Yep, Ruiz comes out on top.

 

should be ruiz

 

I'd go with Vitali by a hair...he was the Ring champion and lost only twice. You can very well make a case for Ruiz. Head to head, Vitali is well above Ruiz.