Who ranks higher all-time: John Ruiz or Vitali Klitschko?

No like winning the title twice and beating guys like Holyfield, Rahman who Vitali avoided, Golota, Johnson, and actually fighting guys like James Toney and Roy Jones, something Vitali has never done. Vitali's whole career has been based on Lewis' surgical reconstruction on his face, and quitting against Chris Byrd. Other than that hes hasnt done **** in boxing besides beating up on a bunch of garbage cans and part time golfers.:dead

 

Putting the word "fat" in front of Kirk Johnson's name doesn't lessen the fact that no one before or after Vitali beat him so easily or quickly does it? Of course it doesn't.......................

 

**** off! :good

 

:-(

 

Which would explain how many people voted confidently for Ruiz right *******?

And your avatar certainly shows that you're probably not biased at all as well right?

 

delusional

 

I should **** off, because I dont agree with you...
How mature!

 

LOL. Ruiz had to fake a low blow to beat Johnson, Klitschko smashed him in 2 rounds. Klitachko was Glass Jaw Roy Jones mandatory for the WBA belt. What did Roy do? He dropped the belt. What does it say about John Ruiz when Glass Jaw Roy HANDPICKS YOU for a Heavyweight belt? It means Ruiz was a joke. You think Glass Jaw Roy would have ever stepped in the ring with Vitali? No way.

 

Ruiz got one of the most bogus Don King-influenced gift decisions of the last 5 years against Golota, LOST to middleweights Jones and Toney, and faked low blows to get an utterly bogus DQ "win" against Johnson.:yep

That boxing fans give this FRAUD any credence whatsoever is truly sad. Ruiz - and King - not only cheated his opponents of their rightful opportunity to win WITHIN the rules, he cheated the fans of their right to see the boxing matches they PAID to see. atsch

 

I'm pressing hard, but what PPV's did Ruiz take part in besides the Jones Jr. one?

 

john ruiz was also the first person to ko jerry ballard, no one before could do such a thing.:good

 

Putting the word "old" in front of Evander Holyfield's name doesnt lessen the fact that no one before or after John dropped him with one punch without accumulation does it? Of course it doesn't..................

 

Bull****, any fighter with a big time promoter can be considered the beneficiary of influence by their promoter. Ruiz still fought and beat credible fighters. He dropped Holyfield, dropped Johnson who hit him low to get out of the fight from frustration. He holds wins over mandatories and some decent fighters. As far as Toney, I think he proved he could hang with just about all the heavyweights out there, and Jones is an all time great, who never faced another heavy for us to judge him against, so your comments dont really add up.
Yeah Ruiz was an ugly boring fighter to watch, but hes accomplished a lot more than Vitali who has LOST in all his marquee fights, something Ruiz is 50/50 in.

 

Yeah, but most fighters have some sort of ABILITY that justifies their ranking. Ruiz didn't have the ability to compete at the world class level, so he had to continually violate the rules against excessive holding - and when that didn't work, fake low blows. And not just in the Johnson fight, either - he faked low blows in fights at least twice before that. And his connections allowed him to get away with this ****!!atsch

It's one thing to use connections to get rated, or get gift decisions - that happens quite a bit, although it is very much part of what is WRONG with this sport. What sets Ruiz apart, though, is the manner in which his connections allowed him to violate the basic rules of the sport, and thus make a mockery of it.

It is why he is such a DISGRACE to this game, and truly, the poster-boy for boxing corruption.:yep

 

how can someone compare ruiz's resume to vitali's? who did vitali beat again?