Who ranks higher all-time: Michael Spinks or Marvin Hagler?

Probably Marvin...Id have him a few spots over Spinks.

 

For my money Hagler's reign at middleweight was much better than Spinks' at light heavyweight, and Spinks' wins over Holmes (the second win being very suspect) are balanced out by his loss to Tyson. That Tyson loss really hurts his legacy.

 

Backlash from the General I see. I say Hagler rates higher P4P. Stronger resume, more depth, superior or at the very least even skill level (Spinks was one hell of a fighter though). Hagler's ability to switch hit, play the boxer-puncher role dominating with the right hand and immediately switching to kill mode at the very hint of weaknesses impresses me much more. IMO Hagler was sharper at putting combinations together also.

 

The Tyson loss is meaningless for me..if anything I give Spinks props for it. Because we have yet to see a middle-lightheavy do anything as ballsy as that since. He was clearly past it for that fight.

Roy had a chance to take on Lennox but priced himself out on purpose. Toney had a shot but roided himself out of contention.

It doesnt count against him in my book...no more then the close points losses that Hagler had before his prime.

 

I don't think it really hurts him at all if you know the circumstances and what he accomplished prior.

 

I feel the Tyson loss hurts Spinks, not because he lost within one round but because he did'nt even try to put up a fight and just quit in my humble opinion.

 

I don't even factor Spinks' loss to Tyson anyway when I rate him since he wasn't supposed to beat Larry Holmes or any elite HW for that matter he's one of the best LHW's of all-time, in my top 5 LHW list

 

Probably Hagler, but I would have them right next to each other.

 

p4p I have Mike far below Marvin but for the decade he is second only to Marvin.

Mike failed miserably in his only big fight.

 

by the way, did anyone catch the interview with Holmes on the Spinks Tyson fight? He was asked who would win it. Larry chose Iron Mike (as did I). They asked him "by knockout?" and larry responded with "yes, by knockout"

 

Hagler by a fair amount

 

This is a very tuff call............... Hagler is my top-dog at 160, and a definite all-time Middleweight champion, while Mikey Spinks is certainly a top-3 all-time 175 pounder and former great Light-Heavy......... It's hard to call it, but I give the nod to Spinks by a **** hair.........
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I'm one of the minority here, but I picked Spinks by a narrow margin - though I can fully respect the majorities pick for Hagler.

Spinks took the gold in the olympics. Upon turning pro, he proceded to dominate a very competitive light heavyweight division and did so with a rather small number fights under his belt. He vacated the weight class without a single loss or even a knockdown to ascend to the heavyweight ranks and win the lineal heavyweight crown. The only loss of his career came well past his best against a prime wrecking machine who was heavily favored to beat him.

While I have no problem with Hagler's resume, it is a reasonable observation to make that the majority of his most notable fights came against Roberto Duran, Thomas Hearns and Sugar Ray Leonard - all of whom were rising in weight to meet him. Of those three, one was past his prime and fought him to a controversial decision. The second man battled him life and death for the brief period that it lasted, and the third was returning to the ring after a 3 year layoff and fighting for the first time ever at 160 lbs, yet defeated him.

Once again, this is no easy pick, but for the reasons listed above and perhaps a few others that I can think of, Spinks has earned my vote by a matter of inches.

 

Sure, if you've somehow magically found a way to combine his fights with Tyson, Mustafa, Qawi, and Holmes(both of them) into a single fight... :roll: