Who ranks Higher all time Mick McCaallum or James toney with poll

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Who ranks highter

  1. McCallum

    10 vote(s)
    35.7%
  2. James Toney

    18 vote(s)
    64.3%
  1. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Coz I saw their fights and saw that the best version of Toney couldn't separate himself from an older McCallum, and then watched the rest of their fights and saw that McCallum was better.
     
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  2. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I thought Toney beat him twice. Honestly, I do not know how anyone could score their first fight for Mike or even a draw. Close but clear for Toney IMO.
     
  3. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    I mean, I'm at work and can't get into the nitty gritty of scoring the rounds, but regardless of how its scored, I have never come away from that fight of the rematch thinking "Toney was just the better fighter". Id find it odd if anyone did.
     
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  4. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Most folks think Toney either edged the forst fight by a round or it was a draw. Super close fight with multiple 50/50 rounds. It usually comes down to folks liking Toney's power over McCallum's precision. I personally had it even the last time I scored.

    The 2nd fight, I will always feel like McCallum earned the win. The punch stats were very close in the first fight but in the 2nd fight, McCallum outlander Toney by 100 punches and simply won more rounds on my card.

    The third fight was a clear win for Toney with McCallum having some moments but at 40 years old, he was simply not the same fighter.

    All in all, I have the trilogy as 1st fight a draw, 2nd fight for McCallum and third fight for Toney. The first two fights were brutally close.
     
  5. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Toney was very precise as well. It is rather a matter of Toney's power vs Mc Callum's volume.
     
  6. THE BLADE 2

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    I scored the rematch by a point for Toney. Toney landed the harder punches and Mike landed more (but they were mostly arm punches). Pretty even fight.
     
  7. Ike

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    Two great champions but I put Toney higher (but only slightly), even if he offered some colorless performances in his career (Tiberi, Griffin and Thadzi). Lights Out overall has a little more in terms of important victories than Bodysnatcher in my opinion. McCallum, Nunn, Reggie Johnson, Barkley and the undefeated Jirov on one side, Jackson, Curry, Collins and Kalambay on the other.
     
  8. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I had the first fight a draw I felt like Toney had bigger rounds especially the 12th round but in overall rounds scored I felt it was a draw.

    The 2nd fight I felt like Toney got outworked and I had McCallum winning by 1 point. I felt like McCallum's jab was more active in the rematch and Toney's workrate was a bit worse overall compared to the first meeting.
     
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  9. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Honestly, it is difficult to for me to see a draw in their first fight. Toney landed many more hard punches. Mc Callum was busier but landed only 3 more punches overall. Did you score the 12th round 10-8 Toney?
     
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