Ive always felt it was close between these 2 but when forced, I always went for DLH, mainly because of the 5/6 weight thing & the fact that I believed (& still do to be fair) that DLH won the 2nd fight clearer than SSM won their 1st fight tho it should still have been a UD, not a SD. Both should have been competitive UDs recieving 1 fight each. After DLHs embarassing loss to Pac & SSMs outstanding win vs AM + the fact that Mosely did win the fight when closest to their primes & was the naturally smaller man has changed my mind. I think Mosely should rank higher than DLH on every all time list & when looking properly at both their careers I think he edges him in the same manner of their 1st fight - close but clear. :good
I rank Mosley above DLH. I'm not fooled by multiple weight changes, Mosley has better wins over 'Prime' fighters, or to put it better, fighters whom had advantages over him.
Agreed. 2 criterais count when determining your ATG status. -Resume and longivity - winning alphabetic in multipe weight classes especially lighter classes wher the weight jump is not very big does not eman as much as back in the day.
Name them. Margarito, and ODLH?:roll: How about Rafael Ruelas John John Molina Ike Quartey Fernando Vargas Tito Trinidad Pernell Whitaker Gernaro Hernandez Miguel Angel Gonzalez Javier Castillejo and more.
Ive got Hoya pretty clearly still. He just beat better fighters and more of them..Any objective person can see H2H they are about even with 1 fight a piece. I dont count the "losses" to Tito, Mosley(second time around) and Sturm (which should have been a loss is what Im saying) against him that much..Nor his past prime hiccups against Pac and Mayweather. I look more at the prime wins, which Oscar has the edge in. I think in my list Ive got them quite a few spots apart but at that stage in the list there isnt much separating people, so the gulf isnt as big as it looks.
I'd like to hear a reasonable reason why SSM is ranked higher than DLH. No one has put one forward yet.
I said reasonable. You just posted weak opinions. I posted facts. DLH beat more prime top fighters than Mosley.