Who ranks higher Felix Trinidad or Joe Calzaghe. ATG ranks.

TboneNYC · Dec 21, 2010

China_hand_Joe said: ↑

Jake Lamotta had a jab and nothing besides that jab, his cross was none existant. One handed fighter. Limited.

Robinson had off-days against against LaMotta and lost.

If Calzaghe had an off day against LaMotta, was ill and broke is left hand and had to right with only his right. Joe wins on that off-day, he maybe loses one round, maybe 2 maybe none against a fighter like LaMotta.

Calzaghe will always compare well against a fighter like Robinson, as great he was. Robbo was ahead of his time, but not ahead of Calzaghe's time.

Only Joe Calzaghe was ahead of Calzaghe's time.
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After reading your post i have to say,,you are a nutt hugger of the highest regard.

Ring Master · Dec 21, 2010

TboneNYC said: ↑

After reading your post i have to say,,you are a nutt hugger of the highest regard.
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Lance_Uppercut · Dec 21, 2010

TboneNYC said: ↑

After reading your post i have to say,,you are a nutt hugger of the highest regard.
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No one take CHJ seriously here. :nut

Ring Master · Dec 21, 2010

Lance_Uppercut said: ↑

No one take CHJ seriously here. :nut
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Good to know.

China_hand_Joe · Dec 21, 2010

Ring Master said: ↑

Good to know.
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Lance Uppercut has a pathological hatred of Joe Calzaghe, though Lance Uppercut will hide this at times so as to appear reasonable.

The truth is China_hand_Joe a highly respected poster, who despite having perceived extreme views has been proven over and over again to be a visionary and is regarded as such by many of their peers.

rayrobinson · Dec 22, 2010

Popkins said: ↑

No, it isn't. It's all correct.

Who said that? :huh

Not me. I said it is one facet of a fighter's in-ring game, and it is. It is one facet of the in-ring game, same as power, same as speed, same as defensive ability, same as mental strength, etc etc etc. It is a major factor with regard to a fighter's ability, and once you have decided on ability you have then to consider other factors when the decision at hand is regarding overall p4p all-time career greatness, such as resume (much more important than ring IQ and even more important than ability as a whole), weight-jumping, dominance, etc.

Willie 'Pepp'?

I would say Willie Pep is both a greater fighter and a better fighter than Sandy Saddler.

He is greater (which is the question here) because his career accomplishments were superior AND he had greater ability.

He is better (which is not the whole question here) because he had better ability, and I base that on his superior boxing skills, superior defence, AND his superior ring IQ.

Hopkins was clearly hampered in that fight by being 43 and having the natural accompanying stamina difficulties. He proved his skills and technique were superior to Calzaghe's in the spurts that he was able to open up.

What does any of this have to do with their respective abilities? :huh This is irrelevant. (the answer may lie with the cut that Don King wanted of Hopkins's purse btw)

Both times by a better fighter than anyone Joe Calzaghe ever shared a ring with. If Joe C had ever bothered to move up and fight prime RJJ at 175, he'd have got tooled just as easily... but he didn't.

Nonsense!

A 168lbs fighter moving to 175lbs is nowhere near the same as a 147lbs moving to 160lbs. I have no idea how you can think so. Aside from the simple arithmetic of it (7lbs as compared to 13lbs), of course the higher you go up in weight the less poundage matters, that's a generally accepted fact by anyone who knows boxing. That's why 210lbs heavyweights regularly face 230lbs heavyweights and no-one bats an eyelid, whereas it is virtually unheard of for 106lbs fighters to end up fighting as high as 126lbs. :deal
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Read what I said Popkins rather than thinking what I said. Big difference. I said Joe couldnt move from light heavy to cruiser , which by the way is the biggest difference in any of the boxing divisions. Meaning Joe was limited in his decisions. Where as a 147lb fighter has more opportunities to move in weight.

So before you start saying a post is nonsense and posting little pictures which can only be described as childish, I would suggest you read the post correctly.

Merry Christmas.

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