Who ranks higher, Hagler or Hopkins

Weightclasses. Ever heard of them?

Did Tyson duck Ricardo Lopez?

 

No, that is an opinion. Jones beat a Hopkins who hadn't hit his prime yet. Don't get me wrong, it's one of those wins that keeps getting better as Hopkins keeps producing...but, no.

Toney would also beat Hagler now...can't say I agree, man.

 

I never even heard of these fighters until now, how am I supposed to dispute you?

 

Yo bernie, what's your opinion on Monzon's reign compared to Hopkins?.

 

But they're the best names on B-Hop's MIDDLEWEIGHT resume.And neither one of them were as badass as Tommy Hearns,who defo would have whacked both Oscar and Tito.And if you believe that Hagler would not have ko'd those 2,I have a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn.And the only welter that "beat" Hagler(I had it at least a draw) would have beaten Tito and Oscar too.Ffs,he drew with Hearns how long after the Hagler fight?

 

How the **** on earth was he being gracious when he said the reason he chose to fight Hagler when he did was after viewing the Mugabi fight?That statement makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.None.And for the FOURTH TIME,because you're obviously evading the question,if Hagler wasn't shot,why did Leonard choose to fight Marvin when he did after openly discussing fighting Hagler for at least 6 years?

 

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I used to have a pic' of Hagler, Hopkins and Oscar in my office and Hagler looked like he was would of been a lower wieght than Hopkins and the same as Oscar.

 

And as well like a lot of boxers he competed in the weight divison he was ment for, to be a great MW and did not try to cut a lot of wieght to have an advantage, to obtain a quick belt, then move up to a division that they were ment for, like some in this era.

 

hopkins, and he still isn't done

 

of recent years Hopkins has handpicked and is in my mind 50/50 in wins. Hagler was the best shaped middleweight in probably 50 years and had a 75 inch reach the same as Bernard. Marvin was just so well balanced a middleweight. He fought everyone and was a champion with 60 fights experience and a resume. Hopkins is great, but when they were both prime, Marvin was better and fought better guys. He never reached a level where he moved up and handpicked guys and was 50/50 or so give or take in win/lose.

 

well Marvin's performance with Hearns was his last great fight where he was not rusty. The performance speaks for itself. Duran vs. Leonard was Ray outboxing Duran and Duran never could deal with boxers. Pryor and the one I mix? I don't know. I cannot believe anyone would be stupid enough to put something in water and then say it out loud in the corner like that.

 

Monzon was a beast who dominated a much better version of the Worm than Hagler beat, and beat him more impressively. I hesitate to say a whole lot about him because I don't have his career set yet, but from what I've seen of him and what I've read I would say he's the best MW ever H2H outside of Roy Jones Jr.

 

Nobody 'definitely' whacks Tito and ODLH, and no, they're not the best wins of Hopkins middleweight career, they're just the biggest names. There's a difference. That version of SRL does NOT beat a prime Trinidad, although I'll give you DLH who couldn't carry the weight effectively.

Who gives a **** when he drew with Hearns? What does that have to do with the price of beans? Really irritating when you keep bringing up this unrelated **** as if it's some kind of crucial point and I'm getting tired of addressing them. Think about what you're saying.

 

Did he? I was unaware that Monzon ever faced Willie "The Worm" Monroe. I have to assume you're speaking of Briscoe, in which case I'd agree that Bad Bennie was certainly fresher against Monzon. However, he did not beat him more convincingly. In fact, Monzon very narrowly escaped with a draw in his first fight with Bennie (a fight it has been said Briscoe deserved the nod in, but due to the scoring system in Argentina, that wasn't to be) and was rocked worse than he's ever been in the rematch. Hagler sliced and diced Bennie up off the backfoot en route to a 9th round doctor stoppage.