Who ranks higher in ATG lists usyk or ward

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  1. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    LMMFAO
     
  2. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Breidis > Kovalev. There, I said it! Put Kovalev in the ring with Breidis and Breidis smashes him. They're both pretty much the same size as well.
     
  3. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're one boring pathetic poster....
     
  4. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Usyk and it's not close. He's the first cruiser ever to dominate an elite SHW and as a massive B-side in their backyard. You could tell in the fight commentary that Roy Jones was pulling for AJ over Usyk, feeling a little shown up that he only beat Johnny Ruiz at home with a bodyguard ref.
     
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  5. fistsof steel

    fistsof steel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tough one both Great but The Heavyweight division apart from 2 Maybe is sub standard....
     
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  6. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Most of those guys ward beat, nobody thought they were any good til ward beat them.
     
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  7. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Usyks CW run is very similar to Wards 168 run but I have Usyk edging him there. I've said for years that the Froch/Ward era of 168 was overrated. I rate Kovalev as a better win than AJ as i see him as a slightly stronger champion, despite giving AJ a lot of props that other people outside AJ fanboys can't seem to do. But Usyk outclassed Aj so the win kind of evens out. Usyk overall was more dominate and has shown fewer vulnerabilities against similar opposition which puts him ahead for me. Even if I revisit this in 5 years and rate Wards opposition slightly higher I would probably still give Usyk the nod for being more dominate.
     
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  8. 11player

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  9. DaRealJT

    DaRealJT Well-Known Member Full Member

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  10. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Usyk is making it closer with that Joshua win and potential to reign over a second division.

    But Ward still takes the cake. Multiple HOF'ers and notable proven commodity titlists. Recency bias and personal favoritism to explain why ya'll musta forgot.
     
  11. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic For the honorable cross and the golden freedom Full Member

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    World Boxing Super Series at CW + HW Champion.
    I see no flaw in Usyk's career other than prejudice.
     
  12. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    I don't know how old you are but you sound so young you cannot remember the truth and perhaps I admire you a little for that.
     
  13. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Old enough to know that the division was considered the worst ever when Calzaghe was there. But as soon as ward joined the super six, suddenly it became full of top tier fighters everyone was excited about.
     
  14. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Ohhh, I see where you're coming from. I'm sorry your hero's legacy was easily surpassed by a better fighter in far less fights and time. It's okay. We will pretend they didn't mark Lacy down as a smaller Mike Tyson and that he didn't get far more credit than he deserved for beating him. We'll just rewrite history to make you feel better. Calzaghe is underrated, Ward is overrated, boo, everyone is against my hero, boo.
     
  15. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    This is really close from the point of view of accomplishments but much to my surprise, I am going with Ward. They both cleared out a division that was full of good to very good but not great fighters. Then they moved up and took out a well respected champion at the next weight class.

    The reasons I am going with Ward are three fold.

    1. Just my opinion but I believe the super middle group which Ward beat was a tad better than the cruisers Usyk took out.
    2. Before Ward beat him, the undefeated Kovalev was considered to be one of the most fearsome men in boxing. Thanks to Andy Ruiz, Joshua's luster had already started to dim.
    3. Ward beat Kovalev twice. Usyk just has the one win over Joshua.

    These are two great fighters and if Usyk manages to beat Fury I would move him ahead of Ward.
     
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