Who ranks higher on your ATG List. Oscar De La Hoya or Floyd Mayweather Jr

So you don't rate Floyd's wins over old Hernandez or old Oscar himself :huh

 

I rate them. The only reason why i would is bc it was Floyd 18th pro fight and his age against a veteran champ. For Oscar he was the bigger guy, small ring, big glove, never fought at 154.

I don't really rate Shane or JMM at all. He did what he suppose to do.

 

Interesting concept. You rate Hernandez because Floyd was the younger fighter, fighting the older battleworn champion....when you said you don't rate those types of wins.

I'm confused

 

Not really. Like i'll rate Oscar's win over Quartey as stronger than Chavez Sr who already lost the hunger and 100+ fights and battleworn.

 

If there is a pt to neturalize than it does. Just think about it. Why did Oscar almost lose to Quartey and gets kd by Ike instead of SR. If it was such an amazing feat.

When you gamble people think more clearly of whats real and whats not. You see that **** all the time. Some ATG getting beat by the next big thing.

 

If Oscar truely believed in his abilities he wouldn't seek FLoyd SR to train him to fight like Floyd Jr. He himself doesn't even believe he was ever the best.

 

Oscar was off balance when Quartey put him down, Oscar was dumb in launching an uppercut from so far away.

 

Like i said. Oscar struggled against a non ATG why? So all these idiots throwing down resumes doesn't know ****. There is more than whats on paper.

 

Turbo time back to what i said about Floyd deserves credit against an out of prime Oscar was the fact that Oscar is indeed old which is why Floyd agree to let him even out the playing field with the small ring his weight glove. That deserves credit. And apparantly they bought out a judge too to make a SD. No way in hell did Oscar even comes close in beating Floyd that night. 8-4 was the most obvious score.

 

oscar fought the best.

 

I don't know why you're even bringing up Quartey The fight was at 147 and we're discussing 130-140 in terms of opponents beaten there.

 

I don't consider the size advantage enough to compensate for the loss in quickness, sharpness, versatility, offensive capability, and offensive eagerness due to age. Even though I'd favor Oscar H2H, the argument is who ranks higher, and that comes down to resume. Again, Oscar's prime victims were better than Floyd's prime victims, and his past-it victims were better than Floyd's past-it victims.

 

Same rules apply in all weight and every fighter. Like Joe calzaghe who got two wins over ATGs in jones and bhop but what they mean really?

 

If a fight is 100% credit every bull**** you can find subtract from that. If people really want to discuss it.

The fact that Oscar request for a jr size ring already took Floyd's legs away. You back step two steps and your on the ropes. Floyd would have to fight plan B. Smaller ring also benefit the bigger opponent obviously.

If Floyd beating Old Oscar is 50% than the requested stipulation boost it up to 80%

If Oscar beating Old Chavez is 50% wtf did Oscar do to give the old man a break????

 

Not all wins are static. Joe's win over Bhop is an excellent win and Jones had been KTFO twice before fighting Joe. Are you comparing that to Oscar's win over Chavez and Floyd's win over Hernandez? really?