Who ranks higher on your ATG List. Oscar De La Hoya or Floyd Mayweather Jr

Mediocre means not very good. Toney, Trinidad, etc. had mediocre footwork. Oscar has good footwork, short of excellent.

 

It's funny when you try and act like an intelligent unbiased boxing fan. You even made a thread arguing that Floyd is the GOAT. That kinda destroys your credibility off the bat, because there are dozens of boxers with better resumes, H2H ability, or sometimes even both.

Floyd has a strong case for being the H2H GOAT at 130, but nowhere else. Oscar is better than he is H2H and resume wise at 140-154, and ranks higher on the ATG list. Oscar might be one of my favorite fighters, but I don't nuthug him the way you nuthug Floyd to the point where you can't even think logically.

You're not a boxing fan, you're a Floyd fanboy. You probably won't even watch boxing after he retires, if you don't commit seppuku when he retires or loses that is.

 

not very good and not very bad = medicore. Like i say if u are expecting a above medicore category then he will fall in there.

 

I have said plenty of times that SRR is the GOAT. He got the boxing smarts and heavyhand/speed.

Floyd is the GOAT in boxing ability. If Floyd and SRR is the same size i would not take SRR over FLoyd prime for prime.

 

Oh boy.

 

Also Hawk. If Floyd really is some **** fighter who fought bums then why the whole boxing world is talking about him non stop. Everythings lead to his name.

 

There is basically no way Floyd could do enough to be consider as the GOAT. SRR reign was long and consistent. He simply fought too many people and for the most part in impressive fashion to be dethrone.

 

He's not even the best in terms of technical skills! Whitaker is more skilled than Floyd, and so is Duran. Guys like Napoles, Hearns, Benitez, Leonard, Hagler, and Robinson were all just as skilled, if not more so than Floyd. He's not the most skilled fighter of all time, not by a long shot. He's very skilled, perhaps one of the best, but the best? Nowhere close.

Even if you just want to look at defensive skills, Whitaker, Pep, and Locche are all as good or better defensively. Moreover, a lot of Floyd's success is/was based on his far above average athleticism; that's starting to erode now, and he hasn't looked unbeatable in a long time because of that. If his skills were really that otherworldly, he'd still be tooling people like they were some scrubs and fighting more than once a year against carefully selected opposition. But he's not.

His athleticism was important to his success, though not as much as his skills. But his skills just aren't as uber as you say they are, or else he wouldn't have visibly declined as much or managed his career as he has recently.

 

Pep. Locche? Whitaker all fall short. Look u can believe what u want. I get on here to kill some time. I don't expect many knowledgable posters.

You guys want to prove something email me winners in tennis and boxing. Dig up some live dogs for me to make money at. Otherwise i really don't take ur opinions seriously. i'm off work till next time. Talk is cheap put it in action.

 

He ain't a **** fighter. I have never said anywhere that he is a **** fighter. He's a very good fighter who hasn't come close to maxing out his potential because he fights in a weak era and doesn't even have the mindset to fight everyone available to him and take challenges. He's insanely overrated by people like you though. He was very lucky to have got the win against Castillo the first time, has carefully picked opponents, damaged his legacy with a horse**** fake retirement, missed many worthy opponents, etc. He simply would not have been as successful during the 80s or 90s and is not some unstoppable H2H beast anywhere but possibly at 130 pounds.

The boxing world talks about him because he's one of the two PPV stars left in the sport. Selling PPVs doesn't automatically make you the best ever though.

 

Floyd's resume is far superior to MP's resume.

Manny's best wins are against fighters coming off recent or consecutive losses. He has a history of hurting people who've recently been beaten, and badly.

Floyd's resume > Manny's hard.

 

only if you're ******ed or a *****

 

May done better work than Goldie has. Goldie lost too many of his big fights to be ranked above May. His res is still good tho.