Who ranks higher p4p , Bernard Hopkins or Lennox Lewis ?

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  1. itrymariti

    itrymariti CaƱas! Full Member

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    Hopkins based on ability. Lewis has more depth to his record, but Hopkins best victories are probably better than Lewis' best victories, and he was more dominant, and he was around for longer. But the real deciding factor for me is H2H value. I rate Hopkins as one of the best H2H 160-pounders OAT, above Monzon and Hagler, for instance.
     
  2. Hattons Hook

    Hattons Hook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Stupid question how ?

    I'd say they're both very close on achievements and ability myself, but it's all about opinion. To say Hopkins is so clearly ahead to warrant it being a stupid question is in itself stupid.
    The fact that Lewis beat everyman he ever faced is a big one for me.
     
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  3. Silver

    Silver The Champ is Here Full Member

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    but hopkins never got iced like lewis did, and it happened twice
     
  4. darthhutchence

    darthhutchence Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I say Hopkins wins easily on longevity points. and bigger wins.
     
  5. BENNY BLANCO

    BENNY BLANCO R.I.P. Brooklyn1550 Full Member

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    Yeah but Lennox avenged both losses in a one sided fashion, whereas Hopkins failed to do that against Taylor. And me personally I rank Lennox last victory over Vitali higher than any Hopkins victory due to circumstances and hindsight. And just overall Lennox like I said before has the deeper resume.
     
  6. Silver

    Silver The Champ is Here Full Member

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    but what you fail to mention is that hopkins was no longer in his prime when he lost to taylor consecutively while lewis was brutally knocked out in the middle of his title reign. as for the vitali fight, well, the fight never finished. in fact a rematch was talked about but lewis retired. in short, neither mans resume is overly impressive but hopkins was the more consistent fighter, edge to hopkins.
     
  7. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Lennoxs reign at HW pisses on any reign from BHOPs, the division was so much tougher 1 of the best in HW history and Lennox always sought out the best. As for the P4P, its more questionable but lets not pretend Hopkins was fighting any bigger men with the possible exception of Tarver, Lennox fought more bigger men Vitali/Akiwande/Grant. Compare resumes:

    Lennox

    Holyfield
    Vitali
    Tyson
    Tua
    Rudduck
    Golota
    Grant
    Akiwande
    Bruno
    Morrison
    Mercer
    Mason
    McCall
    Rahman
    Tucker

    Hopkins

    Tito
    Tarver
    Wright
    DLH
    Holmes
    Echols
    Johnson
    Joppy
    Pavlik
    Brown
    Allen
    Vanderpool
    Eastman
    Jackson

    Lennox's certainly has more depth of quality, greater names (albeit past prime), Hopkins has done it in 2 divisions but the neither were as strong and the HWs obviously have a wider range of weights than 160-175
     
  8. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lennox had some solid dominant wins. He had 2 bad KO loses but that is the heavyweight danger and the bigger they are the harder they fall. Bernard's early resume was weak and he got some good wins over blown up Welters his best wins IMO were at light heavweight and by an Older,stronger and more polished B-hopper Tarver, Pavlick, and a losing effort vs Calzage, although I did not like the cheap, faken a foul tactics that Clottley used vs Cotto, I thought B-Hop lost but put on a good effort. His fights against Taylor were good but he was weakened at 160.

    Lewis had great blow-outs over Golota, Botha, Tyson,Grant, Rudduck, while fighting tough with Marovic,Mercer,Holyfield and winning smooth vs Tua...he showed versaility
    He came out on top of a young Vitali and avenged his losses to McCall and an impressive KO over Rahman

    This is close IMO