Who ranks higher P4P, Haye or Pavlik?

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What the hell is your problem? Its a crime to say my opinion?

Ive never been a self righteous 'prat' on here.

I in fact am trying to stay away from the boxing forum now because of people like you sprouting ****. I'm one of the more respected middle men here at ESB, and don't need cocksure ****s like you putting me down. I see you had a little dig at me in the rangers thread as well in the lounge. :-(

Boxing forum officially logging off for good, Destination classic forum, british forum and lounge.

Adios.

 

Since when? P4P just means you discount weight and take into account how good a boxer is in their respective weight. Now if a boxer moves weights and is successful then it adds to his resume but its not a prerequisite.

I point you in the direction of a Mr Marvin Hagler

 

I have Pavlik higher as he beat Taylor (who despite what anyone else thinks I rated) and a good win over Miranda. He's also looked pretty solid in his performances.

Haye, for me has only really beaten Mormeck who surprised me when he beat Bell. I take Pavlik but a title win at HW for Haye makes him leap frog the ghost

 

David Haye

Basically because I think Mormeck and Enzo are better than Taylor and Miranda.

 

Zertuche is a clubfighter,and Zuniga is a decent and tough fighter,but not a top gun at all.
Pavlik beat Miranda and Taylor whereas Haye beat Macca,Mormeck,and Fragomeni.

Fragomeni is probably Zuniga's version at cruiser weight,and Macca is probably on the same level as Miranda but in a different weight division.
Mormeck and Taylor? I for my part would rate Taylor above Mormeck(well,difficult to do so as they compete in different weight divisions).Therefore Pavlik probably deserves a higher spot in a pound for pound list than Haye at this point of their careers.Well,I wouldnt argue the toss with someone who has a different opinion though.