Who ranks higher than RJJ P4P?

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  1. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I hear people say a prime Roy Jones Jr. was the GOAT P4P. Who do you think ranks higher than him P4P?
     
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  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Best part of 30 guys for me. I'm not sure you could argue less than around 15.

    I think what people are trying to say when they say this is that he's the p4p h2h ATG. That is, in their opinion, nobody would do better against a field of ATGs in his weight range than Roy. That's a reasonable opinion (though not mine) and it's very likely he would rank higher on this sort of scale than on a more traditional scale.
     
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  3. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I think Roy had glaring weaknesses that showed up against lesser fighters like Griffin in their first fight and a 39 year old McCallum both fighters backed Roy onto the ropes where he didn`t get away from the ropes the way Canelo did vs GGG.
     
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  4. Combatesdeboxeo_

    Combatesdeboxeo_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Lol
     
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  5. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Greb
    Armstrong
    SRR
    Duran
    Charles
    Whittaker
    Pac Man
    Williams
    Leonard B
    Leonard R
    Gans
    Pep
    Jofre
    Wilde
    And about 20 more. imo
     
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  6. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Stick Ricardo Lopez in among the 20,lol!
     
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  7. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Fitzsimmons and Langford. I'd pick Mayweather Jr too.

    Maybe some of the likes of Tommy Ryan. Hard to say with such incomplete records. I sometimes like to stick Jem Mace and Daniel Mendoza into these discussions, people never seem to like to talk about the bareknuckle guys, but what those two achieved looks extremely impressive
     
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  8. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Maybe SRR, Langford, Greb, Ali, Duran, Charles, Moore (Archie), Louis, Fitzsimmons rank ahead of him, IMO.

    Hovering around #10. Maybe just inside or just outside of it.

    Best of his generation.

    (I don't put much stock in fights after his first 50 at age 35.)
     
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  9. Gudetama

    Gudetama Active Member Full Member

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    He's number 30 on my list, around Mayweather and Pacquiao level.
     
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  10. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I always rated Manny over Floyd and Roy.. He fought more guys without thought of loss and had more confidence.. That means something to me. Roy and Floyd sort of handpicked or didn't fight guys at the times they were good. That takes away from their ranking.
     
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  11. Combatesdeboxeo_

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    Where is Ali
     
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  12. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Ali who?
     
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  13. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Whittaker and Robinson
     
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  14. Combatesdeboxeo_

    Combatesdeboxeo_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Laila Ali
     
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  15. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    She doesn't quite make the cut.
     
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