Who ranks higher Thomas Hearns or Bernard Hopkins. ATG ranks.

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  1. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Opposition beaten

    Tommy Hearns.......VS......Bernard Hopkins
    Wilfredo Benitez..................Felix Trinidad
    Roberto Duran....................Antonio Tarver
    Pipino Cuevas.....................Glen Johnson
    Virgil Hill.............................Kelly Pavlik
    Dennis Andries.....................Oscar De la Hoya
    Doug DeWitt.......................Winky Wright
    Eddie Gazo.........................William Joppy
    Nate Miller..........................Simon Brown
    Murray Sutherland...............Keith Holmes
    Angel Espada......................Carl Daniels

    Achievements in titles won

    Thomas Hearns - Won World titles in 5 divisions
    WW: WBA
    LMW: WBC, The Ring
    MW: WBC
    SMW: WBO
    LHW: WBC, WBA

    Bernard Hopkins - Won World titles in 2 divisions
    MW: IBF, WBC, WBA, WBO, The Ring
    LHW: The Ring (IBO)

    Other Stats

    Former Champions beaten:
    Thomas Hearns: 7 (Espada, Gazo, Benitez, Duran, Medal, DeWitt, Miller)
    Bernard Hopkins: 10 (Aquino, Jackson, Brown, Holmes, Daniels, Joppy, Hoya, Tarver, Wright, Jones Jr)

    Reigning Champions beaten:
    Thomas Hearns: 4 (Cuevas, Benitez, Andries, Hill)
    Bernard Hopkins 5 (Holmes, Trinidad, Joppy, Hoya, Pavlik)

    Future Champions beaten:
    Thomas Hearns: 5 (Curry, Sutherland, Duran, Andries, Hill)
    Bernard Hopkins 3 (Johnson, Hoya, Tarver)
     
    realsoulja, Dec 22, 2010
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  2. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Hearns ranks considerably higher.
     
    Addie, Dec 22, 2010
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  3. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    Hearns is one of my favourite fighters and he was a exceptional boxer, he edges bernard slightly. that draw made hopkins go up in my eyes so therefore he came closer.
     
    cesare-borgia, Dec 22, 2010
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  4. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hearns draw over SRL > = < > Hopkins draw over Pascal
     
    realsoulja, Dec 22, 2010
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  5. aramini

    aramini Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I know Thomas Hearns was around in an exceptional era, but there are fights he came up very short in in his prime, Leonard I was close, Leonard II was close, Hagler wasn't, the two Barkley fights were a big let down.

    Thomas accomplished more, BUT he is the same height or taller as Hopkins, so you know his success at welter is kind of just a freakish sidenote in history. Its the same way Hop was just too big and strong for Tito and Oscar, except no weight draining.

    I say they are about the same, Bernard more consistent, working with less power and more solid technique, Hearns with his astounding speed and accuracy and range. Bernard has more longevity, Thomas more explosive exciting fights, but Bernard is definitely the better boxer and I would pick him to win in a head to head, prime or past prime.

    Having said that Hearns beats almost every welter out there by stoppage, especially ones who are not used to getting hit.
     
    aramini, Dec 22, 2010
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  6. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    Thomas hearns beat leonard the second time, that draw was a robbery. Thats like not giving pea credit for beating chavez.
     
    cesare-borgia, Dec 22, 2010
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  7. war4years

    war4years Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Anyone remember when thomas hearns KTFO Roberto Duran inside two rounds about six months after Hagler eeked out a decision over him? epic
     
    war4years, Dec 22, 2010
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  8. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Hearns was greater AND better.
     
    Bill Butcher, Dec 22, 2010
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  9. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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  10. easyLivin'

    easyLivin' Member Full Member

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    I rank Hearns higher but Hopkins is still writing his book :)
     
    easyLivin', Dec 22, 2010
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  11. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hearns achieved more

    Hopkins beat the better opposition, and has better depth in his resume

    Its close.
     
    realsoulja, Dec 22, 2010
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  12. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    What the ****?
     
    Boxed Ears, Dec 22, 2010
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  13. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Former Champions beaten:
    Thomas Hearns: 7 (Espada, Gazo, Benitez, Duran, Medal, DeWitt, Miller)
    Bernard Hopkins: 10 (Aquino, Jackson, Brown, Holmes, Daniels, Joppy, Hoya, Tarver, Wright, Jones Jr)

    Reigning Champions beaten:
    Thomas Hearns: 4 (Cuevas, Benitez, Andries, Hill)
    Bernard Hopkins 5 (Holmes, Trinidad, Joppy, Hoya, Pavlik)

    Future Champions beaten:
    Thomas Hearns: 5 (Curry, Sutherland, Duran, Andries, Hill)
    Bernard Hopkins 3 (Johnson, Hoya, Tarver)

    Tarver + Glen Johnson + Felix Trinidad + ODLH > Cuevas + Benitez + Duran + Virgill Hill

    Who want a problem
     
    realsoulja, Dec 22, 2010
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  14. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    Hearns. But I feel it's closer than a lot might imagine.
     
    TommyV, Dec 22, 2010
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  15. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    If you don't see it, I'm not going to be bothered to point it out to you, brother.
     
    Boxed Ears, Dec 22, 2010
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