WHo really believes Calzaghe and Taylor

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Canibus81, Oct 21, 2008.


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  1. Canibus81

    Canibus81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Beat Hopkins? Considering the fact Hopkins was past his prime when he fought both, should make a good arguement that he would beat both at his best. I don't understand how anybody thinks Hopkins loss those fights. 1. you have to beat the champ convincingly and they didn't do that and 2 Hopkins clearly landed the more effective punches throughout the whole fight with both taylor and joe and neither one of them landed hardly any clean blows on him.
     
    Canibus81, Oct 21, 2008
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  2. David_TheMan

    David_TheMan ESB Sage Full Member

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    B-hop clearly beat Calzaghe. JT won the first fight, but lost the 2nd.
     
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  3. albeziel

    albeziel Multi Viral C13 Full Member

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    Bernard lost clearly against Joe, close but clearly. In my opinion Hopkins won the 2nd fight against Taylor and the 1st one was a close one for sure.

    I really don't see why the controversy in the Hokins vs Calzaghe fight.
     
    albeziel, Oct 21, 2008
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  4. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Hopkins lost all 3 fights. 7-5 and 7-5 against Taylor, and 8-4 against Calzaghe.

    however he did enough in those fights to show that in his prime he would've beaten all three comfortably


    I don't think anyone can make a claim that Hopkins won more than 6 rounds against Calzaghe, and even that is a major stretch.
     
    PH|LLA, Oct 21, 2008
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  5. thewoo

    thewoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The first Taylor fight I thought that Taylor won on points despite being hurt way more throughout the fight. hopkins won his rounds big but just didn't win enough of them.
     
    thewoo, Oct 21, 2008
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  6. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    My scorecards:

    Taylor-Hopkins I:
    TAYLOR 115-113

    Taylor-Hopkins II:
    HOPKINS 116-112

    Calzaghe-Hopkins:
    HOPKINS 114-113

    The Calzaghe fight could have went either way, and I never had a problem with the decision. Taylor-Hopkins II was almost borderline robbery.
     
    Rumsfeld, Oct 21, 2008
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  7. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    That was my feeling as well.

    Taylor took all of the first 8 rounds, barring the 5th, which was clearly a Hopkins round. Then Hopkins dominated the final four, but he didn't win enough earlier rounds to seal it.

    The rematch, however, was quite a different story.

    :smoke
     
    Rumsfeld, Oct 21, 2008
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  8. Primadonna Kool

    Primadonna Kool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I believe Jermaine Taylor Nullified Bernard Hopkins better than Joe Calzaghe. You see Jermaine Taylor can actually box he is not one dimensional, and he is bless with speed of hand.
     
    Primadonna Kool, Oct 21, 2008
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  9. Ospreys_Warrior

    Ospreys_Warrior Member Full Member

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    So no option for won one, lost one...hmmm, fair poll:thumbsup
     
    Ospreys_Warrior, Oct 21, 2008
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  10. The Phenom

    The Phenom Pretty Handsome Full Member

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    Hopkins-Taylor 1 115-113 Hopkins
    Hopkins-Taylor 2 115-113 Taylor
    Calzaghe-Hopkins 114-113 Calzaghe
     
    The Phenom, Oct 21, 2008
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  11. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    There it is. ^ Somebody who clearly understands how to score, what went down, and carries no bias.
     
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  12. The Phenom

    The Phenom Pretty Handsome Full Member

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    Taylor-Hopkins II:
    HOPKINS 116-112[/quote]
    I remember Taylor winning at least five of the first six rounds in the rematch and clearly the eleventh.You could argue for a draw,but nothing more.
     
    The Phenom, Oct 21, 2008
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  13. Canibus81

    Canibus81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hopkins also was the champ in those fights, and that should also play a part.
     
    Canibus81, Oct 21, 2008
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  14. dudemcdudeson

    dudemcdudeson Guest

    How are you going to set up a poll when 90% of the people on here are british and Calzaghe fans
     
    dudemcdudeson, Oct 21, 2008
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  15. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Taylor Hopkins 1 : Should have gone to EX

    Taylor Hopkins 2 : Taylor by razor thin decision


    Calzaghe /Hopkins : Split decision for Calzaghe !
     
    Imperial1, Oct 21, 2008
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