Who really cares about all of these weight classes?

And you're another dumbass. Pacquaio vs Wlad? :yep

Exactly why there's weight classification. Now answer the title of the thread. Who cares about these weight classes shithead?

 

I'd rather watch two midgets give their all in the ring than two oversized men jab and hug their way for a victory.

 

you're dumb. seriously. You're a troll. I fully believe that you're ANOTHER disgruntled MMA fan that is attempting to upset boxers. I'll never understand why MMA fans feel they have to bash boxing and vice versa.

Grow up. You think they'd let Sherk fight Fedor? dumb. while we're at it, lets let Genki Sudo fight minatauro.

 

:yep :thumbsup

 

Klitschko weighs damn near twice as much as Pacquiao, of course he'd win, doesn't mean he's the better fighter. And it was Dempsey who said that, not Sullivan. Ass.

 

I actually agree with Action more than with some of the people here ridiculing his idea.

I'm not in favour of getting rid of weight classes all together, but there is no reason to have more than EIGHT divisions at the most.

Anyone who knows boxing history will know that the weight divisions were created to give "champion" status to fighters who simply weren't good enough rather than them being not big enough.
Bob Fitzsimmons and Sam Langord were so good that they fought the biggest and best, despite being 150-170 pounders. Joe Walcott was 140 pounds knocking out 175 pounders and outboxing 210 pound heavyweights, and he was only 5'2"

They were good enough therefore they were big enough. Entertaining fighters who couldn't handle fighting the biggest and best just stuck to contesting the division titles, but they were always aware that the real championship challenge was the heavyweight championship.

Eventually, competition in the divisions allowed there to be EIGHT divisions and that was more than enough, and the best middleweight and light-heavy fighters would often fight against heavyweights.

The advent of SEVENTEEN divisions has helped destroy any rational structure in boxing, often the fighters in the division below are capable of beating those above. And fighters hide from each other in these divisions. One guy will insist he's staying at 160, and another will say he's not budging from 168, and the fights are avoided.
Sugar Ray Robinson fought for the light-heavy title weighing 157.
Billy Conn fought a 200 pound Joe Louis for the HEAVYWEIGHT title weighng 169 !
Nowadays it's even more bull**** because many fighters are drying out and rehydrating, so guy's who weigh in at 168 are actually often well over 175 come fight time. In the old days this was full-blown heavyweight.

And what's the point of the cruiserweight divsion anyway ?
It used to be 190, now it's 200, and those guys are coming into the ring anything from 185 - 215 ! What's the point ?
When a man gets to 190 or 200 pounds he's near enough powerful to knock over a bull elephant anyway, so what's his excuse for not fighting the biggest and best ??
I'm pretty sure David Haye and Enzo Mac could beat all the British heavyweights above them, for example.
Truth is, oftentimes the cruiserweights are just as big as the heavyweights but they are in athletic shape.

If a soft-hitting slapsie 200 pounder like Chris Byrd can do something at heavyweight, then what excuse has any cruiserweight got ?
People wonder why the cruiser division has only produced one truly great fighter (a ATG heavyweight too, not by accident) and the answer is simply - they are there because they are not good enough, it's not that they aren't big enough.

 

Ya, because I was serious, you ****ing idiot.

 

One of the things I find silly about this is that there isn't anything stopping lighter fighters going after heavier ones. Floyd is a case in point, that he has gone up through several weight classes to fight bigger fighters, and against De La Hoya he didn't feel the need to use all the extra weight. So, just like in the olden days, he was fighting at a natural effective weight for him, against someone with a higher natural effective weight. These matchups can and do happen, albeit not so often, because most fighters fight below their natural effective weight, and dry out to do so, hoping that they will be more competitive relative to whoever else can dry out to that weight, than at a higher one.

Weight classes in general though, are a necessary means to establish level playing fields for different sizes of people to fight under different conditions, much like in motor racing. Saying that there's something wrong with this is akin to suggesting that there should be no limits in motor racing, just everyone make the fastest car/bike/tricycle/helicopter/moon-buggy they can and go for it! That would be a farce that wouldn't give an interesting diversity, but rather would end up with one particular type of technology prevailing and becoming the standard, made by a few firms who are invested in that. Everything else would be eliminated.
For my part, I like to see rally cars, closely related to road cars; I'm not a great fan but I can appreciate F1 cars, honed to the best internal combustion engine technology we can develop for clear road tracks; I like to see guys on two-wheels compete with each other in relative safety that wouldn't be the case with heavy four-wheelers jostling them. Each class offers a different standard, and the best within that standard. There can be crossovers, for example drivers who switch from Moto GP to F1, or companies that enter several categories, but it's silly to suggest that stock cars are rubbish because F1 cars are faster.

Lastly, with relation to the "whip everyone" idea, the heavyweight champion of the world is still meant to be that guy, because anyone of any weight could theoretically try to beat him, and presumably those not clamouring for a shot know hey wouldn't, but this doesn't make him the be all and end all of boxing. It's still interesting to see who can be best when no-one's allowed to weigh 240lbs, and if lighter fighters aren't your cup of tea then don't watch them, just like I tend to ignore F1.

 

BINGO! :good

 

Floyd easy UD Silver Back Gorilla.

 

Even if there was one unlimited weightclass in boxing the winner wouldnt necessarily be the best fighter in the world,he would just be the best GLOVED BOXER....So any boxer boasting he could 'lick anybody in the house' would have to make sure there were not any MMA champions or such like in the bar....To be honest with no rules and no weightclasses anybody could win,pac could bite wladimirs nose off,or punch him in the nuts....Unarmed combat is a combination of street fighting prowess and luck...We have weight divisions and rules because boxing is a SPORT and ENTERTAINMENT....You get better entertainment with skilled and closely matched fighters,with rules and gloves to make sure competitors dont sustain serious injury and to make it more aesthetically pleasing...
I think more than eight weight categories is fine,we just need to eliminate the day before weigh ins to a few hours before the fight so guys are actually fighting within their stipulated weightclasses,any boxer over the division limit IN THE RING would be disqualified...
To the original poster,boxing is a sport not a streetfight....

 

If boxers had only a few hours to rehydrate; you'd probably end up with more dehydrated fighters in the ring, and therefore more brain injuries, because in the pursuit of winning they would still be drying out to the lowest weight possible. I think hours-before weigh-ins would be a recipe for more tragedies. Perhaps if we had a way of testing whether a fighter was dehydrated, and we could put a limit on this, then we could weigh in later, but otherwise they need time to rehydrate or they won't do it sufficiently.

 

I was assuming boxers wouldnt be stupid enough to still dehydrate if they know they dont have enough time to re-hydrate...But if they still tried to cut water with no time to put it back on then your right some other method would be needed to ascertain if a fighter is dehydrated and if so not let him fight.....We need guys to be fighting at their natural athletic weights by whatever method can work....
My main point is boxers shouldnt have to cut any water weight before a fight and then rehydrate.....Floyd is proof of this....Cutting water weight is what is linked with brain injuries in this sport....Ban all the dieuretics and post weigh in IV fluid drips/gorges as well.....

 

Too many weight classes and too many titles....we need a boxing Tea Party and make changes.