Who really won Floyd Mayweather vs Jose Luis Castillo 1

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  1. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    And somehow you aren't even in the ballpark of the judges' consensus except on the clear cut rounds.
     
  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    The consensus doesn't matter, that's not how fights are scored.

    Using the judges cards you can see how they give Castillo enough rounds between them to secure victory.

    And again, you yourself disagree with judges so that's not a valid argument in terms of who deserves to win. We know who the judges awarded the fight to.

    If it was that simple we'd also have to accept Williams beat Lara because the judges said so, it's just a poor argument.
     
  3. scandcb

    scandcb Active Member Full Member

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    Castillo 114-112.
     
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  4. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Once in a blue moon, there’s a decision that looks bad. Maybe if you were ringside like the judges who do this professionally, Lara—Williams would’ve appeared differently.

    What we know about Mayweather—Castillo is that there were six clear cut rounds that put Castillo in the hole 2-4. The judges did have disagreement on the other rounds, but Castillo would’ve needed 5 of 6 rounds on two cards to get a win and that rightfully did not happen since there are many more reasonable ways to arrive at a win for Mayweather.

    I do not think your opinion in the absence of training in scoring fights after watching it on YouTube, and not ringside, means much.
     
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  5. scandcb

    scandcb Active Member Full Member

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    I gave Castillo 5, 7, 9, 10, 11 and 12. Plus the point deduction in round 10

    I gave Mayweather 1, 2, 3 ,4 and 6,

    Round 8 I scored 9-9. Castillo won the round but had a point deducted.
     
  6. lufcrazy

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    None of our opinions mean anything to anyone but ourselves, why would they?

    But boxing isn't as simple as saying judges are professional they get it right. Look at Mayweather Canelo, one judge somehow had that a draw. Even though he gets paid to judge. Hell one judge somehow had Floyd losing to Hoya.

    What we know about Mayweather vs Castillo is its a brilliant 12 round fight that will probably always be debated. We should be thankful we can watch it and judge ourselves.

    To this day people still debate Johnson vs Hart, Walker vs Flowers, Louis vs Walcott even though we can't even see those fights.

    The only thing that's wrong, is your assertion that anyone scoring for Castillo doesn't know how to score. That is clearly a very poor thought process.
     
  7. jaytxxl

    jaytxxl Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This is exactly why it’s not a robbery as some of the rounds after 5 were swing rds not to mention the point deduction.. Castillo put himself in a huge hole early on needed a clear sweep after rd 5 to get the W.. Floyd did the right thing in giving him an immediate rematch in which he earned a clear victory..
     
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  8. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    I know that you know full well who the Vegas Cash cows were & are Mayweather & Canelo Both have really lost fights. Both have been PROVEN cheaters too. BUT Their asses have been covered by the State Commission that is so obvious that a blind man sees it easily. Boxing is now considered on a par with Pro Wrestling by the casuals Vince McMahon decides who wins their matches & the State commissions decide who wins the big $$$$$$$ fights in boxing. Its all about $$$$$$$$$$
    barring a miracle Canelo knows all he has to do is be standing at the final bell & he cannot Lose
    Pac has never been a cash cow he's had to EARN his success thats why in my estimation his legacy DWARFS both Mayweather & Canelo
     
  9. TISONLYONEKING

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    Watched this fight so many times... big Floyd fan but I’ve never been able to score the first JLC fight for him.

    Close fight but JLC won.
     
  10. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Floyd close but he won the rematch going away.
     
  11. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Log off
     
  12. Henry Hank

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    Castillo beat that ass he was even named ring magazine fighter of the month cause of his performance and they published an article about bad decisions in boxing that happened at the time focusing on this fight and the Johny Tapia vs Manuel Medina debacle.

    As for the second fight yes Floyd won but he didnt look good and it was another close fight proving that educated pressure would always give him trouble.

    Now this was Castillo imagine if it was Duran or Chavez who were levels above JLC both would give Floyd a life changing beating.
     
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    Mayweather won clearly
     
  14. PH|LLA

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    That's myth Castillo took 4-5 rounds off Floyd in the rematch.
     
  15. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    When you log off or decide to be a man & admit you know Floyd blatantly cheated in IV Gate & the fight should have been declared a N/C. The NSAC just saying " Mr Mayweather did nothing wrong so we will not be investigating" just doesnt clear him just makes him look even more GUILTY!!!