Who really won the fight: Teofimo Lopez or Jamaine Ortiz

Ortiz won the track meet. Teo won the fight.

 

Neither did Lopez deserve to win the fight nor did Ortiz get robbed. It was a close fight, not because it was competitive but dull and boring. Lopez could do nothing. Ortiz did well to not allow Lopez but didn't do anything himself.

Lopez: 0+0 = 0
Ortiz: +1-1 = 0.

 

Garbage fight, still would give a close decision to Teo since he's the champion. Jeff Mayweather said it best.

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O,O*,O*,L,O*,L,L*,O*,O,L*,L,L* (114:114 Draw)
Teofimo Lopez vs Jamaine Ortiz
Round 1: 9:10
Round 2: 9:10*
Round 3: 9:10*
Round 4: 10:9
Round 5: 9:10*
Round 6: 10:9
Round 7: 10:9*
Round 8: 9:10*
Round 9: 9:10
Round 10: 10:9*
Round 11: 10:9
Round 12: 10:9*
Final Score: 114:114 Draw
* Close rounds

It was a close fight - and since I enjoy scoring tight high level contests that force You to keep your concentration level up for every second, I also enjoyed it.
Ortiz scored a bit more I thought, but Teo was landing a bit heavier. Round 2 I think is also interesting in scoring terms - for TV audience. Ortiz outscored Teo for the most part, but there was one right hand which Teo threw, where there wasn't good angle and thus it's impossible to tell how clean it landed. They didn't show the replay either. If it landed as hard as it sounded, then I'd probably give that round to Teo. As it was, I gave it to Ortiz.

Certainly not a robbery, Ortiz didn't do enough clean scoring to separate himself. I also felt that He gave the fight away in late rounds a lot like against Loma.
Hopefully He'll get another shot since He's clearly world class, with tons of talent.

Tons of respect for Teo for his run of opposition. Like I wrote in other thread, I don't think He's appreciated enough for accepting difficult challanges and not cherry picking suitable opponents to make him look good.

 

Ortiz won, and another boxing roberry. Competitive fight with 1 winner - > Ortiz.

 

I was rooting for Teofimo, I like him more than most people on ESB, but I had Ortiz winning.

It was a disgusting, horrible, negative style from Ortiz who had no interest in engaging, but Teofimo didn't do enough to cut off the ring and got out-landed in most rounds.

Imo Teo won about 3-4 rounds. Last night exposed his weakness fighting on the front foot.

Having said all that... I can kind of understand how 2 judges had it 115-113 Teo (even though I disagree personally). In rounds where nothing is really happening, it's not that crazy for a judge to give the round to the aggressive champion coming forward, over the challenger who keeps moving back and is throwing less.

The 117-111 Teo card is unjustifiable though.

 

I also gave Teofimo round 2 based on that hard punch he landed.

 

Terrible fight. I've seen drying paint be more entertaining. Ortiz ran all night, which would have been a decent strategy but he landed only 80 punches all night and nine of them had any effect on Teo.

Meanwhile Lopez fought (using that term in its widest of definitions) by following Ortiz around completely ineffectively and in an amateurish fashion. Had zero idea how to cut off a running opponent. Landed even fewer shots than Ortiz.

Most rounds were impossible to score. How can you score a round when no one does anything positive.

117-111 score was obviously a rigged score. Neither guy won so a draw would've been best.

But in reality Lopez lost. Does anyone now believe he'd be competitive against Haney or Crawford?

 

Are You sure it landed though? Horrible angle - and I think at best We can make educated guess based on the reaction of the commentators, that - possibly - had a better view on that.
That's also the thing about scoring. Judges at ringside might have the same issue on a lot of occasions where We get a better view in front of a TV. If rounds are as close and decided by 1-2 punches - You're counting on judges not missing something and sometimes it's not even their fault.

 

Yeah it landed. It was an over hand right in the last few seconds of the round that sent Ortiz stumbling back.

 

Whew! glad I had something else to do instead of watch it.

 

I've always said if a fight is close, the more aggressor usually gets the nod. Also running these days is a bad sign for judges especially after the Shakur debacle. That fight might have set the precedent.

 

Nope.It’s sadly the other way around.Judges will usually give the nod to runners.I was a surprise lopez got the W.Because usually runners get advantages.