Who really won the GGG vs Canelo Fight

It's just too much fun watching THEM grasping at straws This rematch can't come soon enough! You think Canelo will be the one with the confidence going in? Lol! I don't.

"B.. Bu.. But facial damage and padded punch stats doe!"

 

Majority consensus of media and fans is not always a great tool...kind of like boxrec and compubox punch stats, they really cannot be relied upon as an absolute truth.

Many of the reports of who won that I have encountered (from both sides) from fans either didn't score the fight or did not understand scoring in general. The media especially non boxing media is even less credible.

It was a close fight that I have no issue being scored 8-4 either way or in between. How did you score it, and were there any rounds that could be interpreted differently by another? Do you score based on volume of punches or a contrast of landed punches vs power shots. Do you score body punching higher or lower than some others? Does defense and counter punching factor into ring generalship on your scoring?

I have Canelo 6-5-1
1 even ( could be given to either guy I suppose)
2-3 Canelo (on a 2nd watch I don't see these as controversial)
4-5 GGG (Canelo had moments but to me I stand as clear G rounds)
6 Canelo (I have seen many score this round even and I guess I can see that? Some for G, I don't agree but it would not be criminal to vote/score that way)
7-9 GGG (pretty clearly for me...not one sided in anyway, but I struggle to see how they would be called even)
10-12 (10-11 were tough rounds...yet I have seen VERY few call them even. I think Canelo nipped these rounds but could also see even or G cards with out crying foul)
12 I went Canelo without much hesitation

I have GGG 5-3 in clear rounds
Canelo 3-0-1 in closer rounds (but really only found 1 & 6 difficult to score)

How about you what is your criteria...other than a vocal majority consensus? Do you have your own opinion that is not clouded by public perception (not meant in a derogatory manner, rather a sincere inquiry)

 

GGG 120-108

 

It reads like you gave most of the close rounds to Canelo and still only had him winning by 1 point.

 

That would be correct. But close or not based upon the 10 pt must system, I could see anything from 7-5 Canelo to 8-4 GGG anything else seems skewed by either an agenda of fandom or corruption or a judge/fan who heavily favors a certain factor in the way they score or judge. I like both guys but am not a fan of either so I don't have a dog in this fight other than the sport of boxing that I love

 

I think everybody knew that GGG wouldn't be awarded a decision. Boxing is a business. GGG is an older athlete. They think they can milk more money out of Canelo.

It just is what it is. It's like when they robbed Hopkins in the Hopkins vs Taylor 1 fight. Who knew that Taylor would be retired before Hopkins, and that Hopkins would continue to box for over a decade.

 

*Cough* pimp C* cough Dino*....

 

That impotent nitwit Isal would be here trolling 3G fans if even HE thought Canelo won. Instead, Isal has STFU like a good boy!

 

Wow? I am as big of a B-Hop/Philly guy as there is around here...and he was not robbed. I scored it a draw and think he should have retained the title. He absolutely handled the ring generalship dictating pace and distance but really was not active enough to earn a win convincingly let alone have it said that he was robbed. Stop calling close fight decisions that you don't agree with robberies.

 

My point is It's normal for majority to score it for GGG when you need to give Canelo most of the close rounds.

But I agree that none of the scores from 8-4 GGG to 7-5 Nelo was outrages.

 

I wouldn't say that I gave him those rounds. I believe I am unbiased even when scoring a guy that I cheer for, and in this case I have no reason to give a round one way. In those close rounds (and if I absolutely had to GIVE Rd 1 to someone rather than call it even I would go Canelo by a hair...so I don't find those other rounds borderline, but do respect that another might judge by another criteria)

I think aggression (effective aggression can and should be debated in this instance) was set by GGG in throwing (and landing by compubox the higher level of punches...however how many actually landed and the solidness of the landing is very much up for debate). He impressed me yet again with a GREAT jab that should be text book teaching for young boxers. However Canelo refused to allow GGG to completely dictate pace/tempo and/or distance. His defense was brilliant as was his countering against a larger stronger opponent. I believe Calelo controlled the action by ring generalship (a scoring principle by the way). I score body punches as high as any other effective punch landed and think Canelo worked that very well, and also landed the heavier blows over all...GGG again earned my respect with his chin and toughness. He is impressive.

But to make a short story long lol, I don't give rounds but rather score for who I feel edged each round. To look at a fight through a 12 Rd lens is faulty by any logic but even Moreso if the 10 pt must system is in place. The problem
Most people have is they don't like or understand the scoring system and question results that are based upon that system rather than what they think they saw in totality...or even worse having your opinion formed by media and announcers both in
Boxing and real life

 

Yes.. Among a few other Turds.

 

I didn't mean to say you wanted to give The close rounds to Canelo but rather giving him those rounds was sort of the only way to have a scorecard in his favour.

I also thought the 1st rd was almost even, but I don't like 10-10 rounds so I gave it to G, preferring his jab over Canelo's defence and a couple of power shots.

Canelo definetly had the better defence, but why I think the gap in both fighters' defences(aside from the fact that defending yourself while coming forward is a lot harder than doing it when you're on the back foot) looked wider than It actually was is because slipping a punch always looks more impressive than blocking or parrying one. GGG definetly got credit for some of his missed punches, but Canelo also got credit for some of his blocked punches. That's why I think the gap between the two fighters' accuricies also looked wider than It actually was.

 

Canelo won, I had it 118-110. Canelo was too good, his 30 seconds of fame in each round was amazing.