Who should Ali have fought but didn't?

Foreman could have got his rematch if he ever looked good again

Instead, once he got exposed as a 6 round fighter anyone who with an iron chin knew how to win

Ali fought norton 3 times

Mayweather ducked pacquiao 3 times

I think the Ali haters would make a case that Ali should have stayed in the game until 1986 to fight Tyson lol

 

Correct, but the 3rd fight, (as I'm sure you know) with the HW championship on the line, was a highly controversial decision which in the eyes of many should heav been given to Norton. At the time, there was a HUGE demand for a fourth fight. After the fight, Norton was known as "the Uncrowned Champion".

 

Rocky Marciano........:think

 

Guys, it's not about whether or not Foreman could beat Ali, it was about who DESERVED the title shot the most. Ken Norton was deemed number one contender in 1976, based on a win streak over a bunch of has-beens and never-weres. I love Norton, but Foreman had just decimated Frazier and Lyle and clearly was number 1 contender. He was passed over. The guy who gets the shot should be the one who deserves it, not the one who has the best chance of winning. That's not how it works.

 

But then why would Ali face Norton, a guy he clearly struggled with when he could have fought Foreman? a guy he most likely would have toyed with

 

Speaking as an out and out Ali fan,I admit Muhammad was lucky in getting the decision in his third fight with Ken. Norton won that one by three points in my estimation but it always pisses me off when some insist that Norton was robbed in their second bout. That one was the best out of their trilogy in my opinion. It could have gone either way but any time I watch it,I always score it for Ali by one to two points.

 

Ali never "toyed" with George Foreman. That fight was not one-sided. Ali was roughed up pretty well in there. It is hard for me to picture the 1976/77 Ali "toying" with George. I think it's actually quite debatable as to who was more spent at that time, Ali or Foreman. I can fully understand anyone laying their money on Muhammad in the rematch, but I find it really hard to picture him duplicating his feat in the first fight, in the same fashion. None of Ali's post-Manila defenses were impressive. To see him as such an automatic victor over a killer like Foreman is absurd.

 

Then Jimmy Young shoud have fought Ali, he was next since he beat George..

 

Ali was never even seriously hurt in the Zaire fight and was feeling good enough to go jogging the day after the fight, he was far from being roughed up, and he actually took it easy on George, watch the Ko again when GF was going down, Ali could have knocked his ass cold with an uppercut but held back, something i doubt GF would have done had the situation been reversed...
You could tell by Foremans body language walking back to the corner that he was a beaten man...
And it's not hard at all to imagine Ali duplicating another Ko of GF, especially after watching Young out boxing GF in 77..
Another thing, Ali had Joe to deal with in 75-Norton in 76, that's what champions do fight rematches with the guy's that gave you your toughest fights, Foreman had to get back in line so the only time he could have rematched GF again was 77 , but Young already beat him so that was that...
I don't even remember GF calling out Ali for another match after Zaire:-( if he would've given Ali a more competitive fight he would hav been taken more seriously...

 

Easy.
1) he wanted to win the trifecta with Norton which IMO he didn't.
2) after getting the venue, the hype, the prime time, the loose ropes (don't discount that) etc. as well as pissing blood after George, he simply went by the new boxing rule at the time unlike the past that said "if I beat 'em once that's all it takes. "Toyed with him?"
Ali didn't want George again and IMO Ali is the greatest HW of all time. It's just that his second career, in some ways, was a scam.

 

Was Foreman forced to fight there? he went there of his own will
and secondly, how did the venue only affect Foreman and not Ali?

Not Alis fault if Foreman turns up in an african country parading around with a dog which most people found offensive.

Ali knocked him the **** out. Nobody else did that, that speaks volumes about Alis win. Just like Garcia knocked Khan the **** out, if Khan wants a rematch he needs to work his way up.

Scam? now i've heard everything atsch
Ali beat Foreman, Foreman did sweet **** all after that to warrant a rematch with Ali. he lost to Young, and because he was such a mental baby, he retired

Had they fought again Ali would have TOYED with Foreman.

 

Ok lets all get something straight here. Ali vs Foreman was a fluke. Had Ali been stupid enough to give George a rematch, George would have KO'd him like a locomotive vs. a Geo Metro.

 

How is it a fluke? Ali knocked him the **** out.

Foreman had the opportunity to KO Ali when Foreman was at his absolute best, he couldnt do it

No way was a mentally broken Foreman going to do it in a rematch, not when he struggled with Lyle and Young.

I dont see any improvements from Foreman post Rumble, only a guy with glaring mental weakness who'd lost complete confidence in himself and snapped when he took another loss and so he quit and claimed he'd found God.

 

Ali was a shell of himself 1975+. Think he could have sustained Foremans clubbing shots for more than a few rounds?

The first fight, Foreman was mismanaged big time. All credit to Ali, he was the king of mental games, but Foreman could have chipped away at him and waited to knock his head off his shoulders in the later rounds.

If Foreman had a smart, savy trainer from the start he would have retired undefeated in the early 80s, and Ali would be remembered as Floyd Patterson with a good chin.

 

Isnt that exactly what everyone said before the first fight?

Not Alis problem, thats Foremans problem if hes mentally not good enough to deal with Ali. Foreman wasnt chipping away at anything, are you stupid? Ali lay on the ropes, Foreman hit him with everything he had and ran out of gas and got KTFO.

If Foreman had a vagina, his name would be Georgina but he doesnt, he has a ***** so hes called George. Larry Holmes was waiting for Foreman, after Young, Foreman knew the game wa sup so he retired. Holmes would have ****ed him up big time. Foreman avoided Holmes even during the 90's where Holmes practically BEGGED Foreman for a fight. Foreman was content with fighting the Morrisons, Qawis, Moorers of the world. A whole collection of LHWs, CW and glass jawed fighters while conviniently avoiding the big guys like Bruno, Tucker, Ruddock, Mcall, Lewis and Bowe.

Ali is the greatest of all time, he knocked Foreman the **** out.

Deal with it

"Patterson with a good chin" i take it your one of those Klitscko ****suckers who believes size is everything?

your a joke, log off and **** off