Who Taught Demarco how to box?

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Romulo Quiarte, who actually has a pretty good reputation and is supposed to be among the best technical coaches in the country behind Nacho and maybe a handful more, and the best in Tijuana. :nusenuse:
     
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  2. bcr

    bcr Well-Known Member Full Member

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    DeMarco is not a bum, Broner put one hell of performance and DeMarco just frozed and lost his soul by a beating, but he gave Linares (beat him), Valero, Barthelemy and many other hell.
    At the end he is a world champion.
     
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  3. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    B, b, bu, but that's how a real man fights! How a warrior fights!

    Head movement? Lateral movement? Not being a punching bag? That's weak, girly, runner type stuff.
     
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  4. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Def did not give Valero any trouble, haha.

    I am a fan of DeMarco but at that time point where he was #1 at LW had to be one of the worst single states of a division this decade.
     
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  5. Radrook

    Radrook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You seem to be referring to the traditional way that Mexicans feel they must fight. But such a style need not be so vulnerable. For example, Duran, Julio Cesar Chavez, Mayorga, Maidana, all are of that same style tradition you describe. However, unlike Demarco, they were aggressive in an intelligent way by not being stationary predictable targets. During his heyday neither was Marciano since he came in bobbing and weaving to avoid getting caught unecessarily coming in.

    Here is what I mean:
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  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Quirarte also trained Raúl Pérez (WBC bantamweight champ in the late 80s/early 90s), José Luis Castillo, Jesús Chávez, and - not that it helps out his case for being a great technical coach :sisi1 - Julio Cesar Chávez Jr. from 2008 until 2010 (right before Freddie Roach)
     
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  7. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Zatoichi.:deal:
     
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  8. Radrook

    Radrook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That kind of weight violation should be penalized more severely in order to reduce that kind of BS where you think you'll be fighting someone who weighs 135 and the mf comes in at 160 or more..
     
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  9. Radrook

    Radrook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So Apagitio Sanches trains under Roach and lost to Horn? If so then Roach knew what Pac was up against.
     
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  10. Radrook

    Radrook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I was under the impression that Roach is a top-level trainer.
     
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  11. Farmboxer

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    DeMarco was homeless, living in the alley, that's why he got his last fight.............
     
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  12. Radrook

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    Yikes! That definitely doesn't make for good training. Still doesn't explain why common sense doesn't tell him that if he leans in like that he will get an uppercut.
     
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  13. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Thing with Quirarte and most other trainers, even good ones, is you can't polish a turd. You can have all the knowledge and a be a great teacher but if you don't also have that special rare motivational personality that can get through a thick head and reach someone that just stubbornly wants to be a face-first brawler, a face-first brawler they shall remain.
     
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  14. Radrook

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    You'd figure that the pain involved in getting repeatedly caught by uppercuts would be sufficient to discourage the leaning forward he displayed against Broner. In fact, the last round just before he got 'TKOd has him stationary in the middle of the ring with no head movement no lateral movement just posing leaning over into Broner who is giving him a shellacking. Strange! Usually pain is a good teacher. At least for me it was. I was taught the hard way, by getting hit and told why I was getting hit . So next time around I remembered. This fellow seemed impervious to learning by experience. Or maybe he wanted to get knocked out and be through with the frustrating match. After all, nothing he landed was having any effect and he was getting countered two or three times for every punch he landed. Maybe after realizing he was mismatched and getting nowhere fast he just said to hell with this ****!

    BTW
    Not once did I hear his corner tell him to stop leaning forward or to fight from the outside. The only advice they gave him was to try harder.
     
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  15. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Well as the old boxing trope goes, the fight is won in camp, not the night of. There's little point advising someone to do something they've never successfully drilled with repetition in the gym. If you've never fought before, it basically is all muscle-memory. Nobody in the heat of action with adrenaline flowing is going to be able to process new information. DeMarco was probably just stubborn day in and day out. Quirarte probably took a stab at making a smarter boxer of him but finally got to a "you can lead a horse to water" point with him. On fight night the most you can do is plead with a fighter to do his best within the parameters of what you've gotten them practising consistently in training. If he never stopped leaning in during sparring he isn't going to suddenly listen under the bright lights.
     
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