Who the #@*^$ has Pacquiao ever beat?.. (NOTE: Dates from 11-06-'07 !)

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  1. boxeo#1

    boxeo#1 Boxer-Puncher banned

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    Huh.. you tell me.

    Against JMM a draw. Yes he beat Morales but he was like 55/70 percent of what he once was.

    Yes he beat Barrera when Marco was still a solid fighter and was indeed an upset. But as we all know, upsets happen to everybody.

    He indeed also won against a few top 10 fighters.

    I get the idea that people like Manny for the way he fights. And indeed it is nice to see. But the way a fighters fights has nothing to do with what he has accomplished.

    So I think manny is not in the p4p top 5 at all.

    If he beats a few, or all of the following fighters then it's a diffirent story: Marquez (clearly), Guzman, Juan Diaz.

    I say he thinks twice before fighting babybull
     
  2. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree that his wins over Morales are blown up far beyond what they should be.
     
  3. boxeo#1

    boxeo#1 Boxer-Puncher banned

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    Of course it is. He beat Barrera and has an exciting style and that's it! Nothing more nothing less.

    It can change of course by beating a few prime top fighters.
     
  4. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    Hussein, Singsurat, Julio, Lebwadha, Sasakul, Rakitgym, Lucero all champions or no 1 contender (he wrecked everyone of them, no decision or even close to it),

    Prime MaB (1st fight at 126, they give him Mab), 3k Battery, Morales (was still top 10 p4p at the time) Larios top 2 in 122 at the time, Velasquez #2 contender.

    All this well after his peak prime weight of 122

    There you go..its the lower weights so you might not know but these were the tops of that weight at the time.

    Next time learn more boxing
     
  5. planetzion

    planetzion Well-Known Member Full Member

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    amen :good
     
  6. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Hussein- WHO? Hussein? Please. This guy is a b level fighter at best. His resume proves it. Never was a world champ. He KD Pac and the fight was stopped on a cut in a close fight IN THE PHILLIPINES.:think

    Singsurat- Pac lost by KO and this guy defended twice and lost his title to a prospect! And has never amounted to anything at world level since.:think

    Julio- Including the Pac fight Julio was 3 losses 2 wins in his last 5 fights the night they fought.:patsch

    Lebwadha- Decent win.

    Sasakul-:roll:

    Rakitgym-:roll:

    Lucero-:roll:

    So far I know B level fighters with better records than this.

    Mab- Nice win.

    3k Battery- okay

    Morales- Was shot. Had just lost to an aging Mab. Beat Pacquiao. Had lost to Zahir Raheem. The brotha was SHOT! Not P4P by any means after losing to Mab and Raheem.

    Larios and Velasquez are nice wins. Just nice.
     
  7. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ledwaba, sasakul and mab are pac's best three wins IMO. I think some guys are overblowing how EM was shot when pac faced him.
     
  8. Jbuz

    Jbuz Belt folder Full Member

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    He stopped a close-to-prime Barrera.

    He was the first to stop Morales, who was past his best, but still better than most.

    He beat Larrios, who was above his best weight, but it's a good win nonetheless.

    He beat the then undefeated Solis.

    Plus he beat plenty of good fighters are the lower weight classes, who most people don't know because of the lack of exposure those divisions get.

    Who are the 5 fighters you would have above Pac P4P? Floyd yes, Calzaghe possibly... who else?
     
  9. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    Ohh Lord:patsch

    Didnt I just tell you these were the Champs and the number 1 contenders...

    those are facts.

    Julio went the distance in a loss to Tapia PAC demolished him..demolished!

    Lucero was an up and coming fighter..Demolished...

    Were these fighters beatable ..Yes...But they werent pushovers...PAC went through all of them in devastating fashion...!!!

    Nedal Hussein went the distance with a Prime Larios! What did PAC do??Yes beat him halfway to death.

    Look..You're not the smartest guy here...but dont add to it and go to boxrec and go win loss win loss...

    Theres more to boxing than winning and losing records.. You have to watch the fights intently and see what a fighter is capable off.

    I'll put it this way..If former fighters like Foreman, Czyz, Lewis are telling you how impressive Pac is...you have to take it into consideration that Maybe they know more than you.

    look stop digging yourself a hole.

    Just come out and say I dont like PAC:patsch

    I dont like Barrera..I dont care how great he was
     
  10. 41fever

    41fever Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Obviously its PAC's style that gives him more recognition. IF he beats JMM in the rematch and beats VALERO, SOTO and GUZMAN, then ya gotta give him his props
     
  11. knockout

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  12. saul_ir34

    saul_ir34 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree with this post. Pac hasnt achieved as much as people may believe. His most notable win is against Barrera the first time. Other than that his wins over Morales were definately overated. When i watched the Raheem fight i knew Morales was done similar to watching Castillo fight that Noudo guy or whatever his name was before facing Hatton.
     
  13. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    this thread is stupid that like asking who PBF beat .. i get iraatated with his unknowledgable fans (chimba excluded as you have proven yourself) but he done a number on soem tope 10 foes. yeah he had a draw with marquez but he beat moralles 2x, MAB 2x, lebwaba, larrios, solis ,valasquez and 3k sound good to me

    remember it not just who he beat but also how he beat these guy most by KO
     
  14. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    Because the problem Tays is that they look at Boxrec and think they know...I mean watch the fights and analyze the styles (PBF, PAC, Whoever) and appreciate why they get the job done.

    In case of PBF people are quick to say "Ohh he didnt KO Baldomir, hes boring" total lack of understanding:-(

    and I cant stand Floyd

    dont hate... appreciate:deal
     
  15. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Quite a few excellent fighters - including 2 ATGs for a combined total of 4 wins.