Who the hell were Wilders first 21 opponents?!!

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  1. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah what Lomos doing is unheard of though the guy can box and already had years of experiences to draw on.
    Wilder is no fluke and how he often gets outboxed but pulls it off late on is something he’s learned to do obviously
     
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  2. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm sorry I can't follow you on liakhovich he was a shell of the heavyweight he was when younger.
     
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  3. Cally

    Cally Sand...sand... nothing but sand! Full Member

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    Which ever way you try and dress it up.. Any fighter that's had forty fights and is only this far along into a career with hardly any top names/mega fights is a farce of a career...

    Forty fkn fights... maaaan, that's why I have no respect for team wilder... It's a sorry state of affairs for a supposedly dominant farce.. Ahem, I mean force.. in any sport, to just plod on like they have is terrible and quite frankly an embarrassment to the sport...

    Meh!
     
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  4. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Isn't he the Bronze Bomber? The guy who won Bronze as the Olympics. He wasn't ready to fight better guys than bar bouncers and winos from down the alley?
     
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  5. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Wilder feasted on every bum on the circuit and two even knocked him down. :D
     
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  6. Tyson Fury Goat

    Tyson Fury Goat Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Yes and Joshua did all that in 21 fights while while wilder is on his 41 fights that’s the Key thing hereb
     
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  7. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    How about this then boxing master.

    33 matches, 33 mother****ing matches, with two losses no less, before Manny finally stepped up.:shakehead:

    Wethya Sakmuangklang
    Tetsutora Senrima
    Nedal Hussein
    Seung-Kon Chae
    Arnel Barotillo
    Reynante Jamili
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    Gabriel Mira
    Todd Makelim
    Chatchai Sasakul
    Shin Terao
    Panomdej Ohyuthanakorn
    Melvin Magramo
    Chokchai Chockvivat
    Ariel Austria
    Wook-Ki Lee
    Mike Luna
    Sung-Yul Lee
    Ippo Gala
    Bert Batiller
    John Medina
    Marlon Carillo
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    Lito Torrejos
    Rolando Toyogon
    Rudolfo Fernandez
    Renato Mendones
    Lolito Laroa
    Armando Rocil
    Acasio Simbajon
    Dele Decierto
    Rocky Palma
    Pinoy Montejo
    Edmund Enting Ignacio

    Based on your criteria, Usyk and Lomachenko are far better on every level than Manny Pacquiao correct?


    How about this then TysonFuryGoat, take off Wlad 25 matches in, and Chisora, that's an appalling resume.:shakehead:
    His 21st match he was taking on a blown up Cruiserweight.:lol:
    I guess based on him not accomplishing anything all that significant in his first 20 matches, he's not that GOAT right?

    Wladimir Klitschko
    Christian Hammer
    Dereck Chisora
    Joey Abell
    Steve Cunningham
    Kevin Johnson
    Vinny Maddalone
    Martin Rogan
    Neven Pajkic
    Nicolai Firtha
    Dereck Chisora
    Marcelo Luiz Nascimento
    Zack Page
    John McDermott
    Hans-Joerg Blasko
    Tomas Mrazek
    John McDermott
    Aleksandrs Selezens
    Scott Belshaw
    Matthew Ellis
    Lee Swaby
    Daniil Peretyatko
    Marcel Zeller
    Béla Gyöngyösi

    How's that for a "key thing"?

    Knock this stupid ****ing **** off. Because if you go this route, you undermine the majority of fighters that turned pro pre-2012.
     
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  8. KingFury64

    KingFury64 Active Member banned Full Member

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    Despite Wilder`s height he was being outboxed by Ortiz.
     
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  9. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    not one fighter at hw right now is worth a damn.
     
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  10. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    hasn't nbc discontinued covering boxing at the olympics? it used to be on msnbc and show every match. never saw one fight in 2016.
     
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  11. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    thats because wilder only has basic boxing abilty as i stated
    to many easy touches has meant he has not improved his boxing skills as he should have

    but he gets by with what he has / and any win v ortiz is IMO a good win.
    ortiz is not a pushover stylewise for anyone /wilder got the job done fair and square to KTFO ortiz.

    wilder is dangerous to all boxers for the whole 12 rounds skills or no skills / that height and legnth and style makes him hard to keep out .

    without power / wilder would be walked all over / but the fact is he dors have the x factor namely genuine power.
     
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  12. EnzoRD

    EnzoRD Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't understand why Luis Ortiz is so highly rated. The guy is old and slow as hell. His biggest career win was a decision over Malik Scott. The same Malik Scott who got knocked the F out by Dereck Chisora.
     
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  13. Lith

    Lith Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He was pretty much as close as you could be to earning a win against Wilder...
     
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  14. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    Who the hell were Wilder's first 38 opponents

    Joshua has eclipsed Wilder in every department in half the amount of fights. Rather amusing really.
     
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  15. Tyson Fury Goat

    Tyson Fury Goat Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    LOL Pac is a sure fire ATG something wilder will never ever be so that is not a good point

    Fury never reached 35 fights before fighting a live body LOL so that also is not a good point
     
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