Who the hell were Wilders first 21 opponents?!!

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  1. Boxing Truth

    Boxing Truth Active Member banned Full Member

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    :roflmao:
     
  2. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Remove Molina from both men’s resume he is not good or decent.
    And the Arreola that faced Wilder is not good or decent either scratch him- received a gift against Kassi and Kaufman and basically was 2-4 going into that fight and looked out of shape and totally shot.
    Liakovich also was shot.
    And Scott -May - have taken a dive. I believe he did.
    That greatly reduces Wilder’s “decent” wins.
     
  3. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    You can point to literally every great fighter ever and dismiss a large fraction of their opponents/fights as completely irrelevant to the context of being an accomplished boxer.
     
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  4. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    That's true (although Wilder is not even CLOSE to a "great fighter"). However, in Wilder's case a) he fought this level of fighter FAR longer (over 5 years) than is typical; b) the opponents were particularly bad, essentially F and D level "professional" boxers; and c) some of these opponents had Wilder on the canvas (Nichols, Sconiers).

    This raises significant questions about Wilder's ability as a world class fighter, and leads some of us to believe he is a FRAUD, who is packing PURE china in his chin
     
  5. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    I agree to an extent. However, his opposition really isn't that terrible compared to many others similar to him. He's not remotely historic. He's the third best fighter in his division now and this is the highest he has been ranked. He took a long while to step up then when anointed "a belt," he contently fought guys outside the top 15. I get it. But the people who talk the most negative about his resume must apparently think higher of him than those who really don't (or, perhaps, are doing so for another reason?). The extremist Wilder supporters, sure. I just don't think anybody other than them overrates him, really. Crazy as that may sound, I really don't see it. That would be based on it seeming that most people can chuckle at and to some degree agree with a blanket statement of "Wilder kinda sucks."
     
  6. Tyson Fury Goat

    Tyson Fury Goat Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    My predictions are stuff of legends always got the picks right other then provo vs matty i was not fully sober when i made that pick and that was the one and only pick i EVER got wrong

    I even predicted there would be a a cut in the Joshua vs parker fight before the fight happened


    I said fury would school wlad when everyone laughed at me the thread is still there never gets old bumping it!