Who Thinks Jack Johnson Could Step Out Of A Time Machine And Fight For A Belt?

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Anyway, he could have.
     
  2. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    No, Calzaghe ko 1 Johnson
     
  3. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Perhaps if he were to mug someone for a belt that they just purchased in the parking lot of Carson Peire Scott, then the answer is yes.
     
  4. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Lets be honest here.

    Some of the curent belt holders are little bettter than the white hopes that Johnson is criticised for defending his title against.
     
  5. Woddy

    Woddy Guest

    Of course,

    Johnson would walk right through Klitschko, Maskaev, Chagaev, Ibragimov, and Valuev like they weren't even there.

    Its a no brainer right?
     
  6. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    Problem is Jack Johnson is like.. an OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLD timer. Sonny Liston is an old timer..
     
  7. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Valuev doesn't have a belt.

    There is a weird satisfaction in speculating how he would do with all the different fighters through the ages though isn't there?
     
  8. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Only some of them.
     
  9. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    Based on the fact that Johnson couldn't even throw a jab! Someone with a semi-bareknuckle style like everyone of his time would get obliterated under modern rules.
    Same thing would happen if you would put current fighters under their rules.
     
  10. True Writer

    True Writer Active Member Full Member

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    I am not really a fan of putting in heavyweights from the eraly days with the current crop, but I'd give Johnson a great chance against any them maybe Wlads size and power would be to much but Wlad glass jaw would give Johnson a real shout.
     
  11. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    I think you need to go back and watch some of his fights.
     
  12. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Let's agree that Johnson wasn't a modern fighter.

    Hatton hardly ever uses the jab, and when he does it tends to be a filler. He doesn't use it as the defencive weapon it's become in modern boxing, there's none of this "behind the jab" stuff (which is what I presume you are worrying about) and he is a pressure fighter. Johnson could work as a counter-puncher, never use the jab and probably be successful. His problem would be finding the correct way to counter the jab, not lacking a great one. I think he could find his way.
     
  13. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Johnson used his jab extensively when it suited him.

    Dose anybody ever consider that reliance on the jab in modern boxers might actualy be a weakness?
     
  14. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I've heard it said - if you read my post you'll see I never actually say otherwise!

    Possible, I think it can be a technical weakness sometimes in a fighter lacking in imagination, but for that type of fighter tha jab is a god-send anyway. I think it may be a weakness, but it is one that fighters will only be made to pay for, directly, on rare rare occasions.

    EDIT: What I mean is, when the jab is wrong, it isn't wrong by much, unlike, say, the lead left hook.
     
  15. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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