Who thought Pac vs Marquez 3 was a close fight?

Its only close when you are being extremely generous to Pac.
9 - 3 , 8 - 4 for Marquez is very easily supported, 7 - 5 , 6 - 5 - 1 you have to stretch reality pretty damn far.

Making it a draw let alone giving it to Pac you need to completely throw all the rules on how to score boxing out the window (+paying off judges helps, business decision **** Arum)

 

I disagree there werent many clear rounds in the fight, therefore 7-5, 6-5-1 or a draw or acceptable, pac winning would be stretching it imo.
9-3 marquez is bull****, that means you give him nearly all the close rounds.

 

I didn't think Marquez was close at all. 8-4 Pacquiao.

 

100% agree. :deal

 

I think I had it 6-5-1 Pacquiao. Wouldn't of argued with a draw or a 1/2 point win for Marquez either.

I have watched this fight 3 times now and am yet to see the 'schooling' Marquez put on. All I see is a very close fight with lots of very close rounds, with Marquez winning some of his more clearly than Pac but being backed up by Pacquiao all night who was landing short, hard, right hook counters all night which went largely unoticed/ignored by the general population of ESB. Marquez landed more flashy eye catching single shots than Pacquiao, but that doesn't necessarily = winning the fight.

Pac landed more/busted up Marquez's face and had him backing up all night, unwilling to engage and people call that a robbery, :huh

 

It seems the more time goes on, the more people come to face reality, At first people were like ROBBERY, FIX, I HAD MARQUEZ WINNING 10-2, now it seems people are conceding to the possibility the fight could of been scored a draw but not a win for Pac, another six months down the line, people will probably eventually realise the fight for what it was. Avery very close fight which could of arguably gone either way. once we get there, I think we can all move on and accept the result for what it was.

 

Suppose coming forward, volume throwing (regardless if they land or not) and facial markings are the scoring system of the future.
Those seem to be the mantra by the few die hard Pac fans that want to convince people that he won.

 

Facial markings dont arise from non-landed punches.

 

Yawn, facial markings also arise mostly from grazing punches.
Huge swellings often happen from a simple thumb (check Maidana vs Morales) i suppose based on facial markings Katsidis was beating Marquez?

Some people just markup very easily especially after enough wear and tear.

That GIANT gash on Vitalis face vs Lewis you think that happened from a solid punch? no it was a grazing right hand.

Learn the sport already.

 

I had it close but the rounds were clear to me. 7-5 Marquez.

 

atsch

 

So did Pacquiao land any punches or did he just land only grazing punches?

And which of Vitalis numerrous cuts did Lewis open with a grazing punch?

Does this include the punch inside vitalis lip that required numerous stitches, was this also from a grazing punch.

Listen I understand that you can mark up easily, Heck Ive gotten black eyes in sparring from grazing and light punches, but what you're alluding to is that Pac barely landed any punches and the ones he did were grazing, and that these somehow created swellings above both eyes of Marquez?

I'm not the usual keyboard warrior type who comes on forums and gives it the biggun having never stepped in the ring before. I actually box myself so know enough about the sport from first hand experience that swellings dont just arise out of no where.

Neither am I saying that it is a measuring stick of who won the fight. Just pointing out the simple fact that Marquez was more busted up at the end of the fight to counter to the ESB myth that Pac was swinging and missing all night so he had obviously landed at least SOME punches. In fact, he landed more than Marquez did. These are just simple facts, I didn't make them up so why you hating on me for facts beyond my control?

You can say things like

until your blue in the face but you're wrong because I've no affliation with either fighter, or any reason to dislike or like either. So I'm completely neutral here. I'm just calling it as I see it.

And counter to that I could also say 'oh the usual mantra from Pac haters, that 'some fighters mark up eaier than others' and 'If Facial markings are a judge of a fight then Clottey won''

And drag up the usual BS responses to anyone stating the simple fact that Pac bust up Marquez more than Marquez busted up Pac.

 

Point is while Pac landed some clean punches JMM clearly landed a lot more of them.
And you can NOT go by facial markings to determin the outcome, nor can you go by who comes forward or who throws more.
If what you were saying is true Katsidis was EASILY ahead of Marquez in their fight which just makes no sense whatsoever.

Educate yourself on the sport and the human body.
Just because someone looks more markedup does not mean they lost the fight, by that logic we should start changing the results of a LOT of fights.
Look at the last Cotto vs Margo fight replays clearly show that HUGE swelling started with a thumb, are you going to say it was a punch?

I mean seriously how dumb are you?

 

11 - 1 for marquez.

i wander why marquez isn't protesting at all to commission.

 

I'm not going to bother responding to any of your points if you aren't reading or acknowledging anything that I am saying, I already stated clearly

So your whole argument against me is one massive straw man in that respect.

Educate yourself on how to read, I am simply giving my opinion and stating simple facts yet you choose to insult me by telling me to educate myself. Dude, grow up. You're obviously having a hard time dealing with the fact Pac won, so much so, that it seems you have forgotten how to read properly.