you got roach blabbering his mouth about zab, but has never won a title in any weight class... lets's see what the Pac fans think? this is where credibility stands... do you got credibility? let's see...
Says the guy who thinks corrales is better than barrera. Of course zab is the better fighter. Roach is a boxing hof though. How about Zab Judah?
zabjudah got 5 titles how bout roach??? and H2h YOU KNOW DAMN WELL corrales whoops lil barerra:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl you'd be a pacturd to think otherwise...oh wait...
Judah would not be a hof. Even in your flom0 circle. Roach meanwhile easily is. Corrales only beat guys who are smaller than him. The time he fought a guy his own size in clottey, he got whooped. And that was floyd's greatest win?
who the fuk did he make into a champion from the ground up, Pacturd?:hi: I'll wait...........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................NOBODY PACTURD!!!
@ THE TIME barrera finally fought someone his own size in juarez he lost....:deal what does that say about barrera..?:hi:
But Roach is in HOF for being a trainer, very different to getting in the HOF for fighting accomplishments. Zab made it to the top of the sport as a fighter and Roach did not. Would you rather have had Zab's career as a fighter or Freddie's career as a fighter/ trainer?
Roach never built a fighter from the ground up.... its proven.... Toney, pacquaio, all made it to the top without roACH... this is facts people....sowwey:good
zab. but who cares? roach is a trainer not a fighter anymore. how old was zab when roach was fighting anyway? was he even born?? its 2 different things.
lets compare what they did in their careers doe.. roach couldnt even beat haugen ffs..... judah would of wiped him out....atsch
umm while yes pac was already a champion pre roach. pac became elite with roach. some people just dont understand you cant teach what the top guys in boxing are capable of.. i.e floyd defence and mannys offense.. its god given.. with that said.. roach did make manny a better fighter and to say manny hasnt changed his whole career is just ignorant. watch his early fights and then his last 10.. dont tell me no difference.
How does that matter.....? because you believe in manilla Ice??? sit down bro, you have alot to learn...:deal wow.... difference is JMM knocked Manny out, how can you not see this?atsch....bradley supposedly got beat all 12 rounds in the first fight but lost 7-5 in 2nd.... this is not obvious to you thAT ,MAYBE PAC HASNT LEARNED SHIET?/
i agree roach was a c or even d fighter. but thats not how he made a name. hes popular because he is a coach. zab is popular because hes a fighter. right?
ok but can you consider the fact that you are going way off topic. the question was who is the better fighter no doubt roach is HOF but not as a fighter