Who was athletically more talented: Golota or Ibeabuchi

I don't think Golota had as much athleticism as Ike did. He fought and looked too stiff to be considered athletic. But he was a better boxer then Ike IMHO.

 

Did he beat Tua? I thought Tua won a decision.

 

Being washed up has nothing to do with age.

Tyson somehow was washed up with 23.

 

no he wasnt.

 

Top contender? When was Golata ever a top contender? Also, Ike beat Byrd clearly and beat Tua as well. Golata has NEVER beaten a top contender to earn any of his title shots.

 

Your right, it doesnt necassarily have to do with age, but Bowe at that point, and at that age was not "washed up".

 

Golota never a top contender?

Dont kid yourself. Golota was highly skilled, and even at this point in time is still skilled for someone his age. The only person who really actually beat him was himself.

:deal

 

First of all! I am so tired of people calling Bowe washed up when he faced Golota! Bowe had just KOed a prime Holyfield 6-8 months previously. Outside of the Holyfield fights, Bowe fought nobody! How did he get so washed up at 28? Not from a long career of battles thats for sure! Those who dislike Golota like to say that Bowe was washed up to take away from what he actually did on those nights! If you want to say that Bowe underesimated Golota and had horrible training habits, I agree! But he was the same fighter that stopped a prime Holyfield. Golota was a mentalcase! He suffered from anxiety attacks which completely overwhelmed him mentally and physically. As far as boxing ability is concerened, Golota was physically one of this generations best, the problem was that he was mentally one of the worst!

Ibeabuci didn't last that long before he was put away for being a jackass! He looked impressive against Tua and Byrd, but that was where it ended so what he may or may not have achieved is a mystery???

As a total package, I would have to say that Golota was more impressive when he fought his fight and wasn't having anxiety attacks during his ring entrance! Golota did everything good and/or great! Ibeabuci looked like he was going to be trouble to the division, but never fought anymore high profile fights for anyone to really judge him fairly!

 

How was Golota incredibly gifted? He lost all his big fights and even lost to Michael Grant. Why would you compare him with Ibeabuchi?

 

Golota was still young himself when he was blasted out by Lennox Lewis and ko'd by Michael Grant. Is Michael Grant one of Lewis's best opponnents because he beat Golota?

 

...and Tyson, and Lewis, and Brewster, and Grant...

He's never beaten a top contender. Skilled or not, a loss is a loss.

 

He was gifted. He had the athletic skill and tools to be a great champion, but he didnt have the psyche. And he was beating Micheal Grant but after getting knocked down when the referee asked him if he wants to continue he replied no, for whatever stupid reason. He was winning the fight.

Yes, a loss is a loss. That is a fact. If I am participating in a marathon race, and am 30 minutes ahead of everybody including last years winner, and right at the finish line I stop running, let everyone pass me, then cross the line. Did I win? No, I lost. Does anybody that can think for themselves think of me as the best athlete in that particular race, regardless of me being last? Yes.

Dont know how that topic came up. The subject in general was talent, which he had, not whether he won or lost.

In the eyes of the large majority of boxing fans, he did enough to beat Byrd and Ruiz (both title holders) back to back, regardless of what the 3-stooges scoring the fight thought. :-(

 

golotas did have good movement for a while, watch the coreyt sanders fight, he has been looking very stiff in recent fights however

 

There is a little unknown fact that you fellas may not know that Golota used to spar with Ibeabuchi and every time they got it the ring Golota always dominated