Who was better at LW?

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  1. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Mayweather or DLH?
     
  2. Fedor Em

    Fedor Em Enforcement, VRWC style Full Member

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    Both fighters had very short stops at 135. Oscar never came close to losing there but Floyd beat Castillo which was probally better than anyone Oscar fought there. It is close but I would give the slight nod to Mayweather if anyone.
     
  3. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Actually DLH fought there for quite a while. He had 18 fights a LW, only 2 at SFW. DLH also had 6 title defenses at LW and unified the WBO and IBF belts by beating the #2 rated fighter in the division according to Ring, the 43-1 Ruelas. (DLH was #1, Gonzalez was previously but had vacated the division.....he would later lose to DLH at 140)

    Just pointing out that DLH was there for longer than you think.
     
  4. Fedor Em

    Fedor Em Enforcement, VRWC style Full Member

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    Ah, thanks for pointing that out, but I would definately rate Castillo higher than Ruelas. DLH didn't really have signature wins at 135. I believe his fight with Hernandez, which may have been his biggest win until Whitaker was at superfeather.
     
  5. Shake

    Shake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    DLH was a huge lightweight, and he carried it well. I'd honestly say DLH would be a tough fight for anyone there.
     
  6. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nope, he beat Hernandez at LW and Leija there as well.

    I would rate Castillo higher than them. But what about the other fights PBF had there? Remember, Castillo lost alot as well for a top tier fighter.
     
  7. KayEpps

    KayEpps Boxing Addict Full Member

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    De la Hoya was the better of the two at LW. It's just a matter of opinion.
     
  8. Thread Stealer

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    Tough to call.

    Both guys only faced one world class lightweight during their times there (no, Jorge Paez was not a world class LW). Mayweather struggled more with his world class lightweight, but Castillo was a better fighter than Rafael Ruelas.

    DLH beat some very good junior lightweights during his time at 135, and he'd rank higher all-time at the weight class.

    But in terms of better, head-to-head? Probably I'd go with Mayweather. Let's not forget the experience factor. By the time Mayweather reached lightweight, he had been a world champ fighting world class competition for 3 and a half years. 1995 was DLH's breakout year, and he left 135 by the time the year ended.

    Head-to-head, Mayweather has the edge in the lower weight classes. DLH has the edge in the higher weight classes. And when we're talking 154, I'm thinking more of Oscar at 154 in terms of 2001-03, not the part-time fighter who fought Mayweather a few months ago.
     
  9. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think Mayweather would have won a head to head match up. However De La Hoya in my opinion had a better record at 135.
     
  10. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mayweather at LW: Close UD over JL Castillo twice; UD over Victoriano Sosa; TKO 7 rounds Phillip N'Dou - 4 fights ( 1 kayo), 1 former World Champ, 1 WBC title

    Hoya at LW: TKO 2 rounds Jorge Paes, TKO 3 rounds Carl Griffith, TKO 9 rounds John Avila, UD over John John Molina, TKO 2 rounds Rafael Ruelas, TKO 6 rounds Genaro Hernandez, TKO 2 rounds James Leija, KO 2 rounds Darryl Tyson - 8 fights ( 7 kayos), 5 former World Champs, 1 WBO title, 1 IBF title,

    Now you tell me, kg0208, who was better at LW?
     
  11. IsaL

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    De La Hoya
     
  12. Guru_Too_You

    Guru_Too_You ESB OG circa '99 Full Member

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  13. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If you have an answer Dorfmeister, share it.
     
  14. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I was just mentioning as a reminder, yo know, people may think Floyd beat Oscar at 154 therefore it's fair to say that at 135... I really don't know, bro, Chicanito Hernandez fought Oscar at 135 pounds in Sept. 1996 and Mayweather at 130 pounds in Oct. 1998 ( which is the same to 135 let's face it) and said in "The Ring" that Floyd would beat Oscar at 154 and weight classes don't mean anything, they always adapt so I'll make Hernandez words my own for the fiction confrontation at 135 pounds at both fighters prime too. Paradoxically, I state that Oscar was the best LW. Thank you.
     
  15. El Bombasto

    El Bombasto Ask yo momma Full Member

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    Title fights at 135

    PBF 4-0
    DLH 7-0

    Titles

    PBF: WBC
    DLH: WBO, IBF