Who was better? James Toney or Mike Mccallum

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    McCallum was on another planet to Griffin P4P Toney should have beaten him easily.
     
  2. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Do you think McCallum was past it when Toney won their rematch then?
     
  3. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I was responding to the guy who said Toney’s achievements at cruiserweight were comparable to Mc callum’s at light heavyweight.
     
  4. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Nunn was not an elite super middle at all.
     
  5. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    it is a strange statement considering Toney beat Mc Callum.Toney’s prime was at super middleweight
     
  6. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not so sure Mc Callum beats griffin easily.Mike only beat Jeff Harding at light heavy.Lost to Tiozzo later.
     
  7. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    In any case Toney was no Salvador Sanchez P4P at all, overrated I feel.
     
  8. mark ant

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    Mike`s prime was at 154, you could see it in his more defined build at the lower weight.
     
  9. mark ant

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    I didn`t say Mike would have beaten him head to head, his body didn`t look right at 168+ at all and he was slower, P4P though he was miles above the likes of Griffin.
     
  10. THE BLADE 2

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    well yes.Both were not prime when they fought each other
     
  11. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    so was Toney
     
  12. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah, and he didn't impress against Johnson either. On the other hand, Mike also lost badly to Kalambay first time out.
     
  13. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Toney or Mccallum...who ya got Mark ?
     
  14. Mendoza

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    Toney was better in the sense that the had higher peaks. He also had more lower valleys. In some ways Toney was the under achiever, MacCallum the over achiever.

    Toney was the better upper weight fighter by a good margin, as his skills and speed were just better than McCallum's, plus he was a top counter puncher.

    IMO, Toney was the better fighter.
     
  15. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Mike was a better pro. Never came into the ring out of shape or ate his way out of a division and worked on his craft. Talent is only part of being a pro-sacrifice,dedication and discipline also come into the equation as well. And while Toney had an abundance of natural skill he lacked the previous attributes from time to time.
    Mike Mccallum was more consistent then Toney.
     
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