Who was better, Lewis or Wlad?

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  1. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    I never said you did.

    I do accept the win...I have literally no problem at all with it.

    But you yourself need to accept facts as well.
     
  2. Brighton bomber

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    Agreed, had Vitali not been there or had he easily disposed of Vitali he wouldn't of retired, he like most champions would hang on until someone beat him or pushed him hard. As I said Lewis wasn't really committed like he was before he was just hanging round for the money and prestige.

    And yes Vitali is a beast, always rated him above Wlad ever since he KO'ed Hide. Vitali would of been a handful for even prime Lewis.
     
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  3. Odins beard

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    I think both Klits would have been, neither are an easy fight for Lewis although I think Lewis is the favourite.
     
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  4. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lewis was better. No comparison.
     
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  5. Brighton bomber

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    Wlad would of been dangerous if he caught him on an off night like McCall and Rahman did. But fully focused Lewis probably wrecks him. Wlad could possibly out box Lewis as he was a little quicker and his shots a little straighter but once Lewis goes at Wlad, Wlad simply wouldn't of had the durability to hang in there like Vitali would.
     
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  6. DoubleJ

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    I'd favor Wlad over all of Vitali's opponents. That era was insanely weak. Vitali tended to take the heavier punchers, the brawlers. The type of guy who just might land that one shot Wlad couldn't take like Briggs or Chisora.

    Again, I'd favor Wlad but it was an edge having big bro split the division.
     
  7. Odins beard

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    I hope you are not alluding that Briggs or Chisora beat Wlad?

    As for the era it wasn't as weak as people say, it was very solid with a different look with the European domination.

    Imo it was no different to the 90's.
     
  8. KingFury64

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    Lennox Lewis easily.
     
  9. DoubleJ

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    So you completely overlook the part where I say I'd favor Wlad? And about 99% of the boxing world considers the 90s HW division to be much better than the Wlad era.

    But, given all that I've still got Lewis having the better footwork, better combination punching, more diverse skill set, and better resume.

    Taking Wlad is a losing battle.
     
  10. Odins beard

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    You said Wlad avoided brawlers and heavy punchers like Briggs or Chisora who could possibly land one and beat Wlad therefore you are alluding to such.

    Skim off the top of the 90's and you'll see the overhype
     
  11. Reinhardt

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    Lennox by a country mile
     
  12. DoubleJ

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    I clearly stated that while I would favor Wlad over all of Vitali's opponents, they did split the division up, helping Wlad avoid the type of guy who would potentially, but unlikely, change the outcome with one shot.

    Styles make fights and the brothers chose their matches accordingly. Lewis did not have that luxury. He also avenged his own losses, he didn't leave them for big brother.

    As far as the 90s, your opinion is in the vast minority.
     
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  13. WalcottsBentFace

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    Seeing Vitali beat the **** out of Johnson speeded up the retirement plans of “THE LION” didn’t it? Lol
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    And imagine if Lewis actually had the courage to keep his word and rematch Vitali! We could have seen a proper passing of the torch. But only Wladimir had the courage and class to do that in his last fight ;)
     
  14. WalcottsBentFace

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    Is that why Lewis called up Corrie Sanders the night before he fought Wlad? Because that 30 million dollar payday was such an EASY fight for Lewis? He was routing for Corrie pretty hard there! And they weren’t even buddies or anything. WEIRD!
     
  15. Brighton bomber

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    You can't really compare the Lewis' 90's early 00's era to Wlad's late 00's, 10's era, it's not even close in regards to depth.

    Wlad era you had 2 greats in Wlad and Vitali, in Lewis' era you have Lewis, Holyfield who both rank higher on the ATG's list for the majority of people.

    Below the 2 top guys, Wlad's era has Povetkin, Haye and Byrd. Lewis era had Bowe, Tyson, Moorer. So looking at the top 5 guys it's clear Lewis' era was deeper.

    But let's go further and see who else there was further down the list of each era. Lewis' era also had Mercer, Foreman, Ibeabuchi, Tua, Golota. Wlad's era had Peter, Chagaev, Ibragimov, old Sanders? Maybe Thompson. Pretty clear the top 10 Lewis' era was deeper and had better quality fighters, hell one of Lewis' era bottom top 10 guys KO'ed one of Wlad's eras top 5 guys.

    The you had guys like Ruddock, Bruno, McCall, Witherspoon, Rahman in comparison to guys like Adamek, Chambers, Brewster, Solis, Arreola. Pretty clear Lewis' era had a better top 15 too.
     
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