Who was better out of Virgil Hill, Fabrice Tiozzo and Henry Maske at 175?

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  1. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In fact, Toney was breaking Nunn down. Maske never beat a fighter as skilled as Toney.
     
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    Who says Nunn was not in shape? Every fighter has an excuse, Nunn was unbeaten and in his prime. Toney broke him down, you must have watched a different fight. Nunn was
    ahead by 2-3 points but Toney was taking over in the late rounds. No means dominating.

    It is funny what you say cause Toney knocked Prince Williams out. So if Williams is Maske's best win, what does that say?

    The rematch between Hill - Maske has very little relevance. Both were way past prime.
     
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    Actually, Barkley was the IBF champion and Toney the challenger. So much for your statement that Barkey never fought at supermiddle.

    Williams weightdrained? That is news to me. Well, he went a hell of a pace for a weight drained man.

    Maske took Williams soul? How so? By outpointing him? What is way more credible is that Toney took Barkley soul by beating him up badly. Barkley then went on to face Maske which was not even a real fight as Barkley had to surrender due to an eye injury uncaused by any of Maske's actions.

    Hill beat Maske in his prime. The rematchwin is nice for Sir Henry but carries little relevance as both were past primes.
     
  4. Cobra33

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    Come on man. Maske isnt even close to Nunn in terms of talent .Nunn was twice as fast and moved much better .
    Maske never met anyone who was as skilled as Toney .
    Barkley was shot when Maske fought him.
    Maske made the most of what he had- a tall rangy southpaw .
     
  5. THE BLADE 2

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    Hill won their first fight fair and square.There was no controvery about the decision. Maske just turned out to be a bad loser.

    Toney beat up Barkley badly and made him quit.Maske did not hurt Barkley, hardly landed any meaningful shots besides his jab, Barkley quit because of an injury not caused by Maske.It is hard to see any logic in your comments.

    While you can make the point that this was not William's best weight, he came in highly prepared and motivated against Toney, with the right game plan. This was a big fight for him on the HBO card.

    When talking about the Maske-Williams you are conveniently omitting, that Williams was out ouf the ring for 1 1/2 years. That ring rust hurt him. For the Toney fight, Williams had no ring rust.

    Also as the other poster said your comparison between Nunn and Maske is a litlle off. They are both tall southpaws.But the Maske is more stationary fighter which suits Toney better and he also does not have the hand speed of Nunn. Now Maske still has some attributes that would present problem to Toney but It think at the end the more skilled fight Toney would eventually win a decision
     
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  6. THE BLADE 2

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    You simply do not have you facts right.Williams had a long layoff before the Maske fight and no tune up fight. Check boxrec.Fact is Maske beat a Williams who was very rusty.

    Fact is Toney stopped Williams. Maske did not.Fact is Toney stopped Barkley, Maske did not really (cause the fight was stopped to an injury not caused by Maske).

    Fact is Toney is a Hofer, Maske is not.

    Comparing Dawson with Wliiams is way off. Williams went a hell of a pace against Toney, while Dawson was obviously weak as hell.