Who was better P4P, Saddler or Ezzard Charles?

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Saddler was rated No.13 in a list of the best 50 fighters in the 50 years leading up to `97 by te ring mag, Charles was rated 14, were their rankings in this list correct and which of them was better P4P?

    Further info given on Sandy:
    Quality of competition: 9
    Bouts vs Top 50 fighters: 2
    Why he was on the list; Licked Pep three of four.
    What he could have done to better his ranking: Defended the 126 crown with more regularity.

    Charles info:
    Quality of competition: 8
    Bouts v Top 50 fighters: 2
    Why he was on the list: He was the best light heavyweight of all-time.
    What he could have done to better his ranking: Beaten Rock just once.
     
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  2. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Charles. By twenty places or so.
     
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  3. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    What Number then?
     
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  4. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    And why is there only two top fifty fighters on Charles' record? Moore, Burley and Louis are staples.
     
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  5. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Charles top 5. Saddler top 25. I have Charles at #5, and Saddler at #23.
     
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  6. Amos-san

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    EZZ
     
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  7. 88Chris05

    88Chris05 Active Member Full Member

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    Charles is still curiously underrated by the publications and pundits, and this this placing is another example of that. Not close for me, he easily outranks Saddler.
     
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  8. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Charles is in the same league as Pep
     
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  9. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Charles not in the top 100?
     
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  10. JohnThomas1

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    You should be getting paid for this.
     
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  11. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    You have insights that do not cross the minds of any other poster. Charles not top 100? No one else could have conjured that up. It would be a tragedy if you kept all those gifts inside.
     
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  12. Bujia

    Bujia Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Apparently Saddler’s quality of competition was a 9 and Charles’s was an 8....
     
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  13. Minotauro

    Minotauro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I have Charles at 5 and Saddler at like 18 or something.
     
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  14. Eddie Ezzard

    Eddie Ezzard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You don't have to have beaten them either so you can throw Marciano into that mix. Someone had a bad day at the office here.
     
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  15. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Burley and Louis retired too soon to make this list.
     
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